Day 8: P-PPoPV

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Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby necklessone » 10 Sep 2013, 18:39:32

Nick almost leaps onto the stage as the crowd cheers. Ozy is no where to be seen. Once Nick reaches the podium, he simply points at the screen.
Ozymandias : 10 : Day 6 Prize, Smirker, Okaros, Rictus, Ionitor, RaveBomb, Nitestorm, Iron Clad Burrito, Visigoth, sphenodont, Admetus, Day 4 Prize, Griffypoo
RaveBomb : 4 : leiden, Aldax, Ozymandias, redead
Smirker : 1 : blindsniper83
Okaros : 0 : Day 6 Prize, San
Admetus : -1 : Day 6 Prize
Aldax : -1 : Day 6 Prize
blindsniper83 : -1 : Day 6 Prize
Ionitor : -1 : Day 6 Prize
Iron Clad Burrito : -1 : Day 6 Prize
leiden : -1 : Day 6 Prize
Nitestorm : -1 : Day 6 Prize
redead : -1 : Day 6 Prize
Rictus : -1 : Day 6 Prize
San : -1 : Day 6 Prize
sphenodont : -1 : Day 6 Prize
Visigoth : -1 : Day 6 Prize


Ozy's picture fills the screens. Suddenly a cartoon top hat and monocle drop down, followed by a wolf nose and ears. "Handsome Devil indeed", Nick says as the confetti falls and the audience cheers.


Nick raises his hands and gestures for quiet before turning to face the players again. "Now is the point where I'd tell you that the wolves chose one of you to leave the game. And they did." Overly dramatic pause. "But they also didn't realize that yesterday's prize also included a Personal Force Field; no player who voted for twdog could be mauled last night. So the wolves got…no one!"

The crowd loves this shit. But then Nick gestures for quiet again.

"That's not to say one of you isn't going to be leaving us. I'm afraid this was redeemed." Nick reaches into his breast pocket and pulls out a metallic X on a lanyard of blue cloth. "The holder of the platinum-plated power of personal veto has decided that RaveBomb must be eliminated from the game and so it shall be. A fitting end for the Cosmic Joke."

The crowd is officially bat shit for this. Rave is quickly escorted away while a caricature of him as a jester dances around the big screens.

Nick is now standing next to the curtains. "It's going well, isn't it contestants? Two wolves in a row and you're almost half way to victory! It almost makes you forget that you're only three failed votes away from defeat." He shakes his head in disappointment. "But, we can't dwell on that when there are prizes to give out!" He claps his hands and the curtains part revealing ten burly men carrying massage tables. "During this round, the players who voted for Ozymandias will receive deep tissue massages. Surely the stimulation of their blood flow will help them make the right decisions. And Griffypoo, since your were a little late on the buzzer the judges have decided to count your vote but disallow prizes." Nick wags his finger. "No burly men rubbing your back this round."

The lights dim and a spotlight illuminates Nick.

"10 contestants, 5 wolves. It's not over yet. So, contestants: who are the wolves?"

Ozymandias, Wolf Handsome Devil - Lynched
RaveBomb, Contestant Cosmic Joke - Night Vig'd with the P-PPoPV

[+] Vote History
Day 6 Prize voted for Admetus
Day 6 Prize voted for Aldax
Day 6 Prize voted for blindsniper83
Day 6 Prize voted for Ionitor
Day 6 Prize voted for Iron Clad Burrito
Day 6 Prize voted for leiden
Day 6 Prize voted for Nitestorm
Day 6 Prize voted for Okaros
Day 6 Prize voted for Ozymandias
Day 6 Prize voted for redead
Day 6 Prize voted for Rictus
Day 6 Prize voted for San
Day 6 Prize voted for sphenodont
Day 6 Prize voted for Visigoth
Ozymandias voted for Smirker (Retracted)
leiden voted for RaveBomb
Smirker voted for Ozymandias
Okaros voted for Ozymandias
Admetus voted for San (Retracted)
Nitestorm voted for Okaros (Retracted)
Rictus voted for Ozymandias
San voted for Okaros
Ionitor voted for Ozymandias
RaveBomb voted for leiden (Retracted)
Aldax voted for RaveBomb
RaveBomb voted for Ozymandias
Nitestorm voted for Ozymandias
Ozymandias voted for RaveBomb
Iron Clad Burrito voted for Ozymandias
Visigoth voted for Ozymandias
blindsniper83 voted for Smirker
sphenodont voted for Ozymandias
Admetus voted for Ozymandias
Day 4 Prize voted for Ozymandias
redead voted for RaveBomb
Griffypoo voted for Ozymandias

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Ionitor » 10 Sep 2013, 18:44:30

So, it looks like Ravebomb was eliminated by someone with a prize, and the maul failed? Anyone want to fess up to the former, and does ICB want to explain the latter?

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Griffypoo » 10 Sep 2013, 18:48:10

The handsome devil and the cosmic joke taken care of on the same night. It's almost poetic.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Smirker » 10 Sep 2013, 18:48:38

Ionitor wrote:So, it looks like Ravebomb was eliminated by someone with a prize, and the maul failed? Anyone want to fess up to the former, and does ICB want to explain the latter?

:?:
Necklessone said part of the other prize was a personal forcefield - which is why the maul failed.

[e]: Interesting My seering still went through even though I did Ravebomb. And yes, he seered as a wolf (no shocker).

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Iron Clad Burrito » 10 Sep 2013, 18:50:39

Ionitor wrote:So, it looks like Ravebomb was eliminated by someone with a prize, and the maul failed? Anyone want to fess up to the former, and does ICB want to explain the latter?


The failed maul is in the OP. The only viable maul targets would have been the ones who didn't vote on day 6. though it appears the wolves didn't know that.

So who saved us a day of wondering about Ravebomb?

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Griffypoo » 10 Sep 2013, 18:52:13

Now that I've actually read all the flavor text, I'm not too sad about my lateness fuck-up. I'm feeling limber enough without the prize.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Smirker » 10 Sep 2013, 18:57:22

At least we have a confirmation on how many wolves are left. 4 5 to go.. if we fail the next three lynches we lose.

Since they felt the need to go after DOM so hard with a maul when he posted his suspicions on REDACTED Admetus and <the other> [= dferrantino]... I think they either knew he was a good seer or that he had a couple of good results he kept pushing. That seems good to me as a starting point. At this point though we need to strongly consider vote analysis more too.

[e]: Hmm, now I note the OP says 5 wolves left.. i thought it'd be 4 since I did the math fast; but that is worse. ah well.
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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Rictus » 10 Sep 2013, 19:06:25

I will not lie. I wish we could get zombie-Ozy in here to post up all the seer results, running vote tally, etc.

Updated:

ALDAX

Night 1: Ravebomb = "Wolf" (CJ)
Night 2: Hellheart = "Seer"
Night 3: Ozy = "Contestant" (HD)
Night 4: Mister Furin = "Seer"
Night 5: leiden = "No Result"
Night 6: "No Result"
Night 7: TBD

MISTER FURIN = CONFIRMED HUMAN SEER

Night 1: Griffypoo = "Wolf" (relayed by necklessone)
Night 2: Griffypoo = "Wolf"
Night 3: Iron Clad Burrito = "Wolf"
Night 4: Ozy = "No Result" (HD)
Night 5: twdog = "Contestant"
DED.

IONITOR

Night 1: San = "Seer"
Night 2: San = "Seer"
Night 3: stigmata = "Seer"
Night 4: Visigoth = "Seer"
Night 5: sphenodont = "Seer"
Night 6: Ravebomb = "No Result" (CJ)
Night 7: TBD

LEIDEN

Night 1: Ryvvn = "Contestant"
Night 2: Hellheart = "Contestant"
Night 3: Rekard = "No Result"
Night 4: Ionitor = "Seer"
Night 5: Ozy = "No Result" (HD)
Night 6: Ravebomb = "Wolf" (CJ)
Night 7: TBD

NITESTORM

Night 1: Ozymandias = "Wolf" (HD)
Night 2: Ozymandias = "Super Wolf" (HD)
Night 3: Ozymandias = "Ultra Wolf" (HD)
Night 4: Ozymandias = "Omega Wolf" (HD)
Night 5: Ozymandias = "Alpha Wolf" (HD)
Night 6: Ozymandias = "Crafty Wolf" (HD)

RICTUS

Night 1: Hellheart = "Wolf"
Night 2: Did not vote
Night 3: Iron Clad Burrito = "Wolf"
Night 4: rekard = "Contestant"
Night 5: Ravebomb = "Wolf" (CJ)
Night 6: Smirker = "Wolf"
Night 7: Leiden: "No result"

SAN ???

DOM = "Contestant"
Griffypoo = "Contestant"
Omega = "Contestant"
Admetus = "Seer"
Aldax = "Seer"
Okaros = "Wolf"

SMIRKER

Night 1: rekard = "Wolf"
Night 2: Ionitor = "Wolf"
Night 3: Iron Clad Burrito = "Wolf"
Night 4: blindsniper = "Wolf"
Night 5: Ozy = "No Result" (HD)
Night 6: Ozy = "Contestant" (HD)
Night 7: Ravebomb = "wolf" (CJ)

SPHENODONT

Night 1: Ozy = "Contestant" (HD)
Night 2: Ozy = "Contestant" (HD)
Night 3: Mister Furin = "Contestant"
Night 4: rekard = "Contestant"
Night 5: San = "Contestant"
Night 6: Ionitor = "Contestant"
Night 7: Ravebomb = "No Result" (CJ)

VISIGOTH

Night 1: sphenodont = "Seer"
Night 2: DOM = "Contestant"
Night 3: twdog = "Wolf"
Night 4: rekard = "Seer"
Night 5: rekard = "Contestant"
Night 6: Aldax = "No Result"
Night 7: San = "Seer"

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ICB JAILER TARGETS

Night 1: twdog
Night 2: blocked
Night 3: ???
Night 4: ???
Night 5: Ozy
Night 6: TBD

WOLF POWER BLOCKER TARGETS

Night 1: ???
Night 2: ICB
Night 3: leiden?
Night 4: Furin?
Night 5: Aldax?
Night 6: TBD
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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby sphenodont » 10 Sep 2013, 19:09:23

Bedtime! I love bedtime! Especially when I don't have to sleep!

You will sleep and you will like it, young lady!

I wasn't tired before, but I ran a 5k while the OP was being written up and then I decided to climb the side of our hotel and then I took a swim across the river. So, yeah, I don't think I'll be up much longer either.

We did request Ravebomb's dossier from our Producer, but it looks like someone hung a "Do Not Disturb" outside our door!

Oh, tha--

No, it wasn't one of yours, Aa~chan. You've lost midnight guest priveleges! Someone else must have put it up there.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Iron Clad Burrito » 10 Sep 2013, 19:13:33

[+] Votes for days 1-5
Day 1
Mister E. Meat - 6 - Omega, FurinMirado, mortus, twdog, Ozymandias, Ionitor
Ionitor - 4 - Okaros, Iron Clad Burrito, Visigoth, Rictus
simple_simon - 4 - Griffypoo, Aldax, Smirker, ryvvn
ryvvn - 3 - meta4, wasabi, sphenodont
hellheart - 2 - blindsniper83, redead
Ozymandias - 2 - Nitestorm, dferrantino
Admetus - 1 - DastardlyOldMan
meta4 - 1 - leiden
mortus - 1 - Ravebomb
Nitestorm - 1 - Admetus
Ravebomb - 1 - hellheart
rekard - 1 - simple_simon
San - 1 - stigmata
stigmata - 1 - Mister E. Meat
twdog - 1 - San
Visigoth - 1 - rekard

Day 2
mortus - 9 - Okaros, FurinMirado, DastardlyOldMan, Ravebomb, Admetus, Ozymandias, Nitestorm, Ionitor, ryvvn
Ravebomb - 7 - simple_simon, Omega, Aldax, Blindsniper83, mortus, Iron Clad Burrito, Smirker
Nitestorm - 4 - leiden, Griffypoo, twdog, dferrantino
Ionitor - 2 - meta4, stigmata
Aldax - 1 - hellheart
dferrantino - 1 - rekard
rekard - 1 - sphenodont
Rictus - 1 - San
ryvvn - 1 - Visigoth

Day 3
Ravebomb - 8 - simple_simon, FurinMirado, ryvvn, Rictus, Nitestorm, Aldax, stigmata, Ionitor
ryvvn - 8 - Smirker, Ozymandias, Omega, twdog, blindsniper83, Ravebomb, sphenodont, redead
FurinMirado - 5 - leiden, San, Okaros, Iron Clad Burrito, Admetus
Nitestorm - 2 - Griffypoo, Visigoth
Admetus - 1 - DastardlyOldMan
Ionitor - 1 - rekard
Ozymandias - 1 - dferrantino

Day 4
dferrantino - 7 - Ozymandias, FurinMirado, stigmata, leiden, Rictus, Ionitor, redead
Ozymandias - 6 - Smirker, Nitestorm, dferrantino, Ravebomb, Iron Clad Burrito, rekard
twdog - 3 - Visigoth, San, simple_simon
blindsniper83 - 2 - Griffypoo, twdog
simple_simon - 2 - Omega, Okaros
Ravebomb - 1 - Aldax
Smirker - 1 - sphenodont
stigmata - 1 - Admetus

Day 5
Omega - 7 - Ionitor, Okaros, FurinMirado, Rictus, twdog, rekard, Admetus
Smirker - 6 - Iron Clad Burrito, leiden, Ozymandias, stigmata, Ravebomb, sphenodont
Ravebomb - 3 - Smirker, Visigoth, Aldax
Griffypoo - 2 - Nitestorm, blindsniper83
Admetus - 1 - San
blindsniper83 - 1 - Griffypoo


I left the last 2 days off...

day 6, everyone piled onto twdog except griff and ravebomb.
day 7 still lacks analysis-ability, I think. But you can see that at the top pf the post.

More thoughts later, but I wanted to gather these here. (If something is obviously fucked up, LMK, I started doing the colors using a global find and replace.)

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Iron Clad Burrito » 10 Sep 2013, 19:20:13

Also: Ionitor, I want to go on the record as disagreeing with you holding your results back until near EOD -- if it results in a bandwagon, so be it; it will result in one sooner or later.

On the other hand, it's your decision. :)

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Nitestorm » 10 Sep 2013, 20:30:59

Ahem, I just like to remind people of my past Seer results:

Night 1: Ozymandias = "Wolf"
Night 2: Ozymandias = "Super Wolf"
Night 3: Ozymandias = "Ultra Wolf"
Night 4: Ozymandias = "Omega Wolf"
Night 5: Ozymandias = "Alpha Wolf"
Night 6: Ozymandias = "Crafty Wolf"

Whose teh crazy now huh?

VINDICATION!

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Nitestorm » 10 Sep 2013, 20:34:20

I'm going to put a random vote on Redacted from Visigoth, while I bask in our Ozymandias free world.

Sadly I don't have anyone I really want to vote for anymore. I almost kind of miss him now. :(
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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby leiden » 10 Sep 2013, 20:35:53

I vig'd Ravebomb.

EDIT
If you're curious as to why I did it when he was, probably, gonna get lynched tomorrow - I thought it would stop Ozy from getting killed. I was, honestly, on the fence about him being a wolf so I wanted to seer him. Plus, my wolf seer on Rave threw me off - why was that one wrong when all the others were accurate?

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Nitestorm » 10 Sep 2013, 20:45:18

leiden wrote:I vig'd Ravebomb.

EDIT
If you're curious as to why I did it when he was, probably, gonna get lynched tomorrow - I thought it would stop Ozy from getting killed. I was, honestly, on the fence about him being a wolf so I wanted to seer him. Plus, my wolf seer on Rave threw me off - why was that one wrong when all the others were accurate?


You thought Ozymandias was innocent. That's unadulterated wolf behavior right there. :evil:

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Visigoth » 10 Sep 2013, 21:11:22

Iron Clad Burrito already covered the votes. Though for some reason it never even occurred to me to do a find and replace and was manually editing in the colors in a word pad document.

So some updated Seer results:

Night 1 - sphenodont - Seer
Night 2 - DastardlyOldMan - Contestant
Night 3 - twdog - Wolf
Night 4 - rekard - Seer
Night 5 - rekard - Contestant
Night 6 - Aldax - No Dossier
Night 7 - San - Seer

Now to crash after staying up a bit later than normal for the SoA premier.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby leiden » 10 Sep 2013, 21:16:10

Nitestorm wrote:
leiden wrote:I vig'd Ravebomb.

EDIT
If you're curious as to why I did it when he was, probably, gonna get lynched tomorrow - I thought it would stop Ozy from getting killed. I was, honestly, on the fence about him being a wolf so I wanted to seer him. Plus, my wolf seer on Rave threw me off - why was that one wrong when all the others were accurate?


You thought Ozymandias was innocent. That's unadulterated wolf behavior right there. :evil:


I'm new. I'll keep that in mind for later games.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Smirker » 10 Sep 2013, 22:45:21

leiden wrote:I was, honestly, on the fence about him being a wolf so I wanted to seer him. Plus, my wolf seer on Rave threw me off - why was that one wrong when all the others were accurate?

I think you're a wolf personally, but my seering won't help with that.
I'll have to go back over things, but I'm still not convinced by your 'accurate' seering. If you are a target seer, that could be handy - but I'm not convinced yet. So, feel free to explain it to me.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby leiden » 10 Sep 2013, 23:07:41

Smirker wrote:
leiden wrote:I was, honestly, on the fence about him being a wolf so I wanted to seer him. Plus, my wolf seer on Rave threw me off - why was that one wrong when all the others were accurate?

I think you're a wolf personally, but my seering won't help with that.
I'll have to go back over things, but I'm still not convinced by your 'accurate' seering. If you are a target seer, that could be handy - but I'm not convinced yet. So, feel free to explain it to me.


That's pretty random. Why? I've been upfront and come clean about pretty much everything.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby leiden » 10 Sep 2013, 23:20:16

...I've missed one seer. That's pretty accurate. I'm not too sure which seer I am.. And really. I think you have a much bigger target on your back than I do on mine as far as being a wolf goes - I'm not too concerned about one wolf calling me out.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Rictus » 11 Sep 2013, 02:52:47

leiden wrote:I vig'd Ravebomb.

EDIT
If you're curious as to why I did it when he was, probably, gonna get lynched tomorrow - I thought it would stop Ozy from getting killed. I was, honestly, on the fence about him being a wolf so I wanted to seer him. Plus, my wolf seer on Rave threw me off - why was that one wrong when all the others were accurate?

This makes no sense, on so many levels.

Why take credit for a bad night vig?
When did you get the PPp3V?
Why shoot the cosmic joke?
Why did you think that would keep Ozy from the lynch?
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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Ionitor » 11 Sep 2013, 03:07:50

Iron Clad Burrito wrote:The failed maul is in the OP.

Wait wait wait. I'm supposed to read that thing? Haven't you people heard of the Geneva Conventions?

Iron Clad Burrito wrote:Also: Ionitor, I want to go on the record as disagreeing with you holding your results back until near EOD -- if it results in a bandwagon, so be it; it will result in one sooner or later.

On the other hand, it's your decision. :)

It's not the bandwagon I'm concerned about. If I'm a useful seer (i.e., I got a non-seer result last night), I don't want to encourage the wolves to maul me. OTOH, if I got another "seer" result, I wouldn't mind leaving the target on myself...

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby San » 11 Sep 2013, 05:03:09

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby leiden » 11 Sep 2013, 08:11:51

Rictus wrote:
leiden wrote:I vig'd Ravebomb.

EDIT
If you're curious as to why I did it when he was, probably, gonna get lynched tomorrow - I thought it would stop Ozy from getting killed. I was, honestly, on the fence about him being a wolf so I wanted to seer him. Plus, my wolf seer on Rave threw me off - why was that one wrong when all the others were accurate?

This makes no sense, on so many levels.

Why take credit for a bad night vig?
When did you get the PPp3V?
Why shoot the cosmic joke?
Why did you think that would keep Ozy from the lynch?


1) Honesty. Better to be honest about it then look like a wolf later.
2) Night 4.
3) I wasn't convinced he was the joke based on my seers.
4) misunderstanding of how the power worked.

Sense made.

I feel like the wolfs are starting to come out now since I seem like an easy target to bandwagon on.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Nitestorm » 11 Sep 2013, 09:07:23

leiden wrote:
Rictus wrote:
leiden wrote:I vig'd Ravebomb.

EDIT
If you're curious as to why I did it when he was, probably, gonna get lynched tomorrow - I thought it would stop Ozy from getting killed. I was, honestly, on the fence about him being a wolf so I wanted to seer him. Plus, my wolf seer on Rave threw me off - why was that one wrong when all the others were accurate?

This makes no sense, on so many levels.

Why take credit for a bad night vig?
When did you get the PPp3V?
Why shoot the cosmic joke?
Why did you think that would keep Ozy from the lynch?


1) Honesty. Better to be honest about it then look like a wolf later.
2) Night 4.
3) I wasn't convinced he was the joke based on my seers.
4) misunderstanding of how the power worked.

Sense made.

I feel like the wolfs are starting to come out now since I seem like an easy target to bandwagon on.


This is your problem - you are being subtly paranoid, rather than being openly and brazenly paranoid. Embrace insanity and cut loose. :mrgreen:

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Iron Clad Burrito » 11 Sep 2013, 10:21:41

Rictus and sphenodont with "No result" seerings... interesting.

I wasn't involved with either of them, or their targets.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Iron Clad Burrito » 11 Sep 2013, 10:26:51

I was gonna edit, but I'll make it a new post.

This looks to be an either/or, but sphenodont... For your claim to be accurate, the wolves would powerblock you, I'd save you, or I'd save ravebomb. Since I wanted to lynch ravebomb, that's fail. I don't think the wolves would give a shit about the naive seer when other seers are still out there and possibly helpful... and I could only imagine saving the naive seer if I knew 100% that that person would be the maul target for the night.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Iron Clad Burrito » 11 Sep 2013, 10:30:06

Leiden gets a little bit of benefit of the doubt from me; the wolves would know that Rave was high on the lynch list and I don't think Ozy would let the wolves kill a human that I wanted to lynch. It tickles him pink to watch me flounder and look like a fool. :) I am officially weirded out by San AND leiden getting vig kills and claiming seer visions, though.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby sphenodont » 11 Sep 2013, 11:12:10

OOC, and possibly breaking RP for the rest of the game: Seriously? If the wolves knew that RB was the Cosmic Joke they'd have left him alone for as long as possible. (Especially if Ozy was a wolf. RB being a known commodity would solidify most of the seer identities {which we can now probably finalize}.)
And I think it's probably a good idea to dig into leiden and San and figure out how exactly they are pulling all these powers out of their asses.

As for why block me? Because I said I was going to verify RB, maybe? Anyway, another meetnig calls, so more later.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby leiden » 11 Sep 2013, 11:19:23

Iron Clad Burrito wrote:I am officially weirded out by San AND leiden getting vig kills and claiming seer visions, though.


I'm not entirely sure why I got a vig kill either, but hey.

sphenodont wrote:And I think it's probably a good idea to dig into leiden and San and figure out how exactly they are pulling all these powers out of their asses.


I'm not quite sure why it's a good idea to dig into me. I've been pretty straightforward about everything since the start. I don't have any adverse information - grill me on anything you want though.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Ionitor » 11 Sep 2013, 11:21:26

leiden, have you posted your result from last night? I haven't seen it.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby leiden » 11 Sep 2013, 11:23:27

Ionitor wrote:leiden, have you posted your result from last night? I haven't seen it.


Didn't get one because I veto'd Ravebomb.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Nitestorm » 11 Sep 2013, 11:28:06

leiden wrote:
Iron Clad Burrito wrote:I am officially weirded out by San AND leiden getting vig kills and claiming seer visions, though.


I'm not entirely sure why I got a vig kill either, but hey.

sphenodont wrote:And I think it's probably a good idea to dig into leiden and San and figure out how exactly they are pulling all these powers out of their asses.


I'm not quite sure why it's a good idea to dig into me. I've been pretty straightforward about everything since the start. I don't have any adverse information - grill me on anything you want though.


I'll start with the questions then:

What was your overall strategy during your planning sessions with Ozymandias?
Do you comb your fur at night before you go to bed?
Which human has looked particularly tasty to you lately?

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Ionitor » 11 Sep 2013, 11:32:36

I will try to put together a good read today. That said, I'm worried I won't have time. So for now, I want to get a vote for blindsniper83 out there. I don't really care one way or the other about his vig shot, but his late vote on Smirker last night reeked of a vote based on a brief read of his wolf board.
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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Blindsniper83 » 11 Sep 2013, 11:53:59

Ionitor wrote:I will try to put together a good read today. That said, I'm worried I won't have time. So for now, I want to get a vote for blindsniper83 out there. I don't really care one way or the other about his vig shot, but his late vote on Smirker last night reeked of a vote based on a brief read of his wolf board.

no my late vote was posted with reasons, and im dreading the same thing happening again today as the temp with humidity is 115F and ppl will get home and turn AC, and oven on in this building and trip the 400A main again in the maintence room again, so i will be w/o power again

Ionitor for simple revenge vote, and the fact he is targeting a once special human, now just spechual human :shock:, seems like a wolf ploy to get closer to parity
RaveBomb making a lot of sense is how you know you're past the point of no return and that death is the only escape.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Ionitor » 11 Sep 2013, 12:02:27

I don't doubt your late vote had a good reason, and didn't accuse you of being fake-late. I'm just doubting that you based your vote on the day thread.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Blindsniper83 » 11 Sep 2013, 12:10:51

Ionitor wrote:I don't doubt your late vote had a good reason, and didn't accuse you of being fake-late. I'm just doubting that you based your vote on the day thread.

i posted from a cell with a 3" screen, you expect me to read the entire thread on a screeen that small?
RaveBomb making a lot of sense is how you know you're past the point of no return and that death is the only escape.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Okaros » 11 Sep 2013, 14:49:23

Ugh. Alright, so Ozy was a wolf. What does this tell us? Quite a bit, since Ozy was generally quite active in voting.

Ionitor, I think you've got some 'splainin' to do.

Generally-speaking, Ionitor's been involved in 6 of the 7 lynches, each one resulting in either a dead human or a wolf when there was no other option available. The only time Ionitor wasn't part of a succesful lynch was on Day 3, when he put a late vote on RaveBomb (who wound up winning the coinflip and surviving).

Looking at some of those lynches:
    -) Ozy's day 1 snipe is terribly suspicious. It saved Ionitor and Simon at the expense of Furin 1.0. Simon's already dead and confirmed a human Seer, so it was likely a move to protect Ionitor (and kill a human in the process).
    -) The day 4 argument between Ozy and dferrantino clearly was a setup to provide cover for Ozy and prizes to the wolves. Ionitor broke a tie very late to put dferr in the lead, and dferr dying would have been the ideal outcome for the wolves at the time.
    -) Ionitor sniped to join the dogpile on twdog, and only joined the Ozy train yesterday once it was clear that he was getting steamrolled. Might as well benefit from a fellow wolf's demise once there's no chance to safe them, right?

I made the mistake early on of thinking that there's no way a wolf would be so blatant. That made me think Ozy was human and, by extension, Ionitor since they seemed to be working together. But clearly the wolves were betting on that, and without Ionitor also being so blatant I doubt Ozy would have survived anywhere near as long as he did.
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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Visigoth » 11 Sep 2013, 15:04:48

redead's voting patterns are still getting my attention. Though with Ozymandias being a wolf it does cause me some doubts. If he's a wolf was the last vote on dferrantino a move to try and ensure that Ozymandias would live in case of a later snipe (which did happen from rekard) and maybe try and get some human cred? Yesterday instead of jumping onto the tail of the Ozymandias bandwagon he goes with an alternate. Again if he's a wolf that doesn't make much sense and I'm sure Ozymandias would have been telling the other wolves to pile on as he was a lost cause. Of course knowing that Ozymandias is a wolf I could certainly see him making suggestions for a new player to make really wolfy voting actions since as a new player they would be given a bit more slack and thus might be able to slip through to the end.

There's also the three-way issue of the Vigs. On one hand we have blindsniper83 that took out Hellheart based on some part by information posted by someone claiming to have Seered Hellheart as a wolf. So in that sense I could certainly see him taking the shot especially after another Paparazzi died that night. Of course it does provide nice cover if he's a wolf to explain why he did what he did. On the other there's San with the surprise shot on rekard and then a follow-up with supposed Seer results. So either he's lying about the Seer results or he's the Vigilante Seer and the redacted part of the power probably allowed him to steal the Vigs power. This is somewhat confirmed by Okaros who's claiming to have been another Paparazzi that had his blackmail material stolen the night before San took out rekard. The question there becomes does it make sense to give the wolves the Vigilante Seer in which to hopefully get a Vig shot of their own or is it the other way around. Or is it neither and blindsniper83 is actually the wolf Paparazzi. Looking at the votes is a little tricky. San is San so a bunch of singletons and little explanation as to why. blindsniper83 missed the dferrantino/Ozymandias day but as he said could simply have been RL getting in the way. Related with Okaros's record is on the same day his vote might have started an alternate candidate with his vote on simple_simon. And of course the only Seer results we have are from those that don't get anything useful so to help there.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Aldax » 11 Sep 2013, 15:19:15

So, last night, after 2 unsuccessful tries my paranoia and I managed to look at leiden's heart. My vision revealed him as someone who is afflicted by the same curse as me. The words "Seer" burned brightly above his head, making me sigh in relief. Nitestorm, however is raising some alarms. Even though he's being his adorably paranoid self I think it's been WAY too overplayed, it's as if he wants to hide in plain sight, I see him as the kid who shouted "Wolf, but now instead of a kid is a Wolf just shouting because he wants us to think he's one of us. May retract later, depending on some more analysis
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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Smirker » 11 Sep 2013, 15:19:59

Just running through on the way to more family stuff and wow, we seem all over the board. I should still be back in time for EOD, but let's try and consolidate on a couple of good candidates please.

I'd love a count when you can give us one please necklessone.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Iron Clad Burrito » 11 Sep 2013, 15:28:21

Admetus - 1 - Smirker
Visigoth - 1 - OzymandaNitestorm
Okaros - 1 - San
blindsniper83 - 1 - Ionitor
sphenodont - 1 - ICB
Ionitor - 2 - Okaros, blindsniper
redead - 1 - visigoth
Nitestorm - 1 - Aldax


...yeah. on day 8. woohoo!

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Ionitor » 11 Sep 2013, 15:28:36

Okaros wrote:Ugh. Alright, so Ozy was a wolf. What does this tell us? Quite a bit, since Ozy was generally quite active in voting.

Ionitor, I think you've got some 'splainin' to do.

Generally-speaking, Ionitor's been involved in 6 of the 7 lynches, each one resulting in either a dead human or a wolf when there was no other option available. The only time Ionitor wasn't part of a succesful lynch was on Day 3, when he put a late vote on RaveBomb (who wound up winning the coinflip and surviving).

Looking at some of those lynches:
    -) Ozy's day 1 snipe is terribly suspicious. It saved Ionitor and Simon at the expense of Furin 1.0. Simon's already dead and confirmed a human Seer, so it was likely a move to protect Ionitor (and kill a human in the process).
    -) The day 4 argument between Ozy and dferrantino clearly was a setup to provide cover for Ozy and prizes to the wolves. Ionitor broke a tie very late to put dferr in the lead, and dferr dying would have been the ideal outcome for the wolves at the time.
    -) Ionitor sniped to join the dogpile on twdog, and only joined the Ozy train yesterday once it was clear that he was getting steamrolled. Might as well benefit from a fellow wolf's demise once there's no chance to safe them, right?

I made the mistake early on of thinking that there's no way a wolf would be so blatant. That made me think Ozy was human and, by extension, Ionitor since they seemed to be working together. But clearly the wolves were betting on that, and without Ionitor also being so blatant I doubt Ozy would have survived anywhere near as long as he did.


Not a wolf.

1. There has not been a single day that ended with a wolf vs. human bandwagon. Since I move my vote at the end of the day to make it count (possible this game due to the EOD time), I'm going to end up either on a wolf when it's wolf vs. wolf, or a human when it's human vs. human. The only people that this isn't true of are those that let the day end with a worthless vote.

2. Why wouldn't the day 1 snipe just be Ozy trying to see if he could get a prize? On day 1, it was hard to say exactly how it would work. Also, if you assume Ozy expected to be revealed (which, as the handsome devil, was inevitable), his snipe might have been partially to make me more suspicious. Mostly, you're working off the argument that a wolf must have been in there some place, which kills humans over and over again.

3. Why was dfer's death ideal? Ozy clearly expected to be dead at some point; I think he was trying to make dfer look more human by staging that argument. In addition, why would I have started the bandwagon on twdog if Ozy or dfer was supposed to go down? For that matter, why would I have called out dfer for his wolfy-as-hell post on day 2? In both cases, I was the first or second vote on a wolf that had, thus far, been almost completely under the radar.

4. Where I showed up on the twdog train is irrelevant. FWIW, I did it when I did because I wanted to pull off a (joking) posting denial-of-service, just to screw with twdog. Damn 15 second posting wait.

5. I was the first person yesterday to point out that Smirker had clearly seered Ozy for real. Yes, I hemmed and hawed with the final decision, but so did ICB.

I'm laying this all out now so that it's in one place. I'm going to try to catch up on reading and move my vote if necessary.

Edit: quote for context
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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Ionitor » 11 Sep 2013, 15:30:56

ICB, blindsniper has a vote for me.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Iron Clad Burrito » 11 Sep 2013, 15:39:54

edited.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Rictus » 11 Sep 2013, 16:21:28

I'm going out to see the LT Dan Band w/ my family so won't be around. But here's a few thoughts:


10 Contestants, 5 wolves.

Admetus
Aldax
blindsniper83
Griffypoo
Ionitor
Iron Clad Burrito
leiden
Nitestorm
Okaros
redead
Rictus
San
Smirker
sphenodont
Visigoth

Claimed Seers:
Aldax
Ionitor
Leiden
Rictus
San
Sphenodont
Visigoth

Not:
Admetus
Blindsniper
Griffypoo
ICB
Nitestorm
Okaros
redead
Smirker


7 claimed as seers. I'd guess 1 is a wolf.
8 unclaimed seers. If 1 wolf is hiding as seer, then there's 4 in here.

So I'm going to start by looking in the non-seers.

I'd also like someone to look at the people who were blocked last night and what that might mean.

This is a hurried post, so feel free to critique.
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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Rictus » 11 Sep 2013, 16:26:22

I can't believe we have a bunch of single votes. Okaros for now. I hope to be back before 9.
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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby necklessone » 11 Sep 2013, 16:30:00

Ionitor : 2 : blindsniper83, Okaros
Okaros : 2 : San, Rictus
Admetus : 1 : Smirker
Nitestorm : 1 : Aldax
redead : 1 : Visigoth
sphenodont : 1 : Iron Clad Burrito
Visigoth : 1 : Nitestorm

No vote recorded (6) : Admetus, Griffypoo, Ionitor, leiden, redead, sphenodont

About 90 minutes left to vote and submit power PMs.

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Ionitor » 11 Sep 2013, 16:31:53

At the moment, I'm going to go with Nitestorm. I would have expected more Ozy votes from him, and their interactions seemed a bit "scripted".

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Re: Day 8: P-PPoPV

Postby Iron Clad Burrito » 11 Sep 2013, 16:33:17

Rictus wrote:I'd also like someone to look at the people who were blocked last night and what that might mean.


I've already mentioned that. No one's biting.

sphenodont claimed to be blocked seering Ravebomb.
Rictus claimes to be blocked seering Leiden.
Leiden claims a failed vision due to his vigilante action.

I was involved in none of the above.

If necklessone reinstates vigilante-ing in the nighttime order of operations exactly where it was before (after seering and before mauling) then the vigilante didn't stop the seer. [note: It does fly in the face of the implication at the game's beginning that there wouldn't be any nighttime vigs, but that's neither here nor there.]

In order of suspicion:
sphen
leiden
rictus -- very low suspicion for other reasons.

I've already voted for sphenodont. I can support votes for okaros and nitestorm as well, for vote history.


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