Day 5: The Blacksmith

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Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby The Fairy Catmother » 11 Jan 2017, 22:47:17

At the tavern, everyone had a drink and tried to clear their minds. Sitting as far apart as they could in a cramped bar, they went over everything from the very beginning.

"Alright, so what do we know?"
"Well, we know we're not actually looking for witches. We're looking for those bitchy girls that are messing with our heads and making us think there are witches."
"But what happened to Rictus in the church a couple days ago sure looked pretty...witchy."

They were starting to think there might be more going on than they had originally thought.

"Well, all I know is, I'm not a witch!" cried sphenodont suddenly.

All eyes turned to him. "Well, there is one sure way to find out." This time, it was Reverend Hale who had spoken.

"Everyone knows a witch can't get drunk. Alcohol doesn't affect them."

Nobody had ever heard of this before, but who were they to question a Reverend?

As the hour went on, sphenodont was forced to drink pint after pint. It didn't taken him long to start slurring his words and belligerently denying his own level of inebriation.

"Well, he's drunk, all right. So he can't be a witch."

sphenodont stood up(ish) angrily. "THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU!" He wobbled back-and-forth for a moment, then said, "I have to throw up. Abigail, come hold my hair, will you?"

And with that, he fell to the ground, dead. As he landed, a small tube of violently pink lipstick rolled out of his pocket. It was the exact shade that had been used to write the note found on Clearasday.

Satisfied with the outcome (and most of them quite drunk themselves), the townspeople started back to their homes. Reverend Hale led the way. He opened the door, and his first step landed with a sickening squish.

Checking under his boot, he saw that he had just stepped on an eyeball. A trail of blood led them to the other eye...then a pair of glasses…and finally, the rest of Blindsniper83.

Scrawled across his forehead In beautiful calligraphy were the words, "Next time, try LASIK, Four eyes."

sphenodont - lynched - wolf
Mercy Lewis - You are a wolf. Night action - "Revenge" - 3x per game, you may choose a target. An anonymous vote will be added to them the next day. This extra vote will be reflected in the final vote count.


Blindsniper83 - mauled - human seer
Tituba - You are a Puritan. A slave, you devoutly cling to your native land's practices. Some may call you a witch, but you only use your powers for good. You are the seer.


FINAL TALLY:

sphenodont - 3 - Hellheart, Admetus, dferrantino
DastardlyOldMan - 3 - Rictus, sphenodont, Blindsniper83
Rictus - DastardlyOldMan
rekard - Jrsthethird
Blindsniper83 - rekard



Day 5 ends at 9pm PST.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 11 Jan 2017, 23:10:25

[+] Day 1
Ryvvn - 3 - Rictus, rekard, stdio, Hellheart
Admetus - 2 - Ryvvn, dferrantino, DOM
Hellheart - 2 - CAD, Zark
sphenodont - 2 - Ryvvn, stdio
dferrantino - 1 - Admetus, Zark
Zark - 1 - JRSthethird, Hellheart
Rictus - 1 - Gungnir
CAD - 1 - Blindsniper
[05:33] Ryvvn for Admetus ( 1 )
[15:02] Admetus for dferrantino ( 1 )
[19:26] JRSthethird for Zark ( 1 )
[25:59] Zark for dferrantino ( 2 )
[35:55] Rictus for Ryvvn ( 1 )
[36:00] dferrantino for Admetus ( 2 )
[37:00] Hellheart for Zark ( 2 )
[41:34] DOM for Admetus ( 3 )
[41:53] CAD for Hellheart ( 1 )
[41:58] Blindsniper for CAD ( 1 )
[43:03] rekard for Ryvvn ( 2 )
[43:37] Gungnir for Rictus ( 1 )
[43:49] stdio for Ryvvn ( 3 )
[44:15] Zark for Hellheart ( 2 ) ----------------> dferrantino ( 1 )
[45:53] Hellheart for Ryvvn ( 4 ) ----------------> Zark ( 1 )
[48:34] Ryvvn for sphenodont ( 1 ) ----------------> Admetus ( 2 )
[48:58] stdio for sphenodont ( 2 ) ----------------> Ryvvn ( 3 )

[+] Day 2
sphenodont - 4 - Penalty, DOM, Rictus, Hellheart, Zark
stdio - 4 - CAD, Admetus, sphenodont, JRSthethird, Hellheart
Blindsniper - 2 - JRSthethird, dferrantino, Hellheart
Zark - 1 - rekard, Hellheart
Hellheart - 1 - stdio
dferrantino - 1 - Blindsniper
Rictus - 0 - sphenodont
Vote Manipulation:
stdio vote nullified ---> Hellheart ( 0 ) ---> Source: stdio
Rictus vote moved ---> sphenodont ( 3 ) ---> stdio ( 5 ) ---> Source: ?
[00:01] Penalty for sphenodont ( 1 )
[09:26] DOM for sphenodont ( 2 )
[12:58] JRSthethird for Blindsniper ( 1 )
[13:17] rekard for Zark ( 1 )
[13:25] Rictus for sphenodont ( 3 )
[14:29] sphenodont for Rictus ( 1 )
[14:59] Hellheart for Zark ( 2 )
[16:15] CAD for stdio ( 1 )
[16:21] Admetus for stdio ( 2 )
[19:28] dferrantino for Blindsniper ( 2 )
[19:46] Blindsniper for dferrantino ( 1 )
[20:16] Hellheart for sphenodont ( 4 ) ----------------> Zark ( 1 )
[20:51] sphenodont for stdio ( 3 ) ----------------> Rictus ( 0 )
[20:59] JRSthethird for stdio ( 4 ) ----------------> Blindsniper ( 1 )
[21:21] Hellheart for stdio ( 5 ) ----------------> sphenodont ( 3 )
[21:30] Zark for sphenodont ( 4 )
[22:55] stdio for Hellheart ( 1 )
[23:00] Hellheart for Blindsniper ( 2 ) ----------------> stdio ( 4 )

[+] Day 3
JRSthethird - 7 - dferrantino, Rictus, rekard, Blindsniper, Zark, Admetus, Hellheart
Hellheart - 1 - DOM, JRSthethird
Rictus - 1 - JRSthethird
rekard - 1 - sphenodont
Vote Manipulations:
DOM +1 Vote ---> Source: sphenodont
[09:02] DOM for Hellheart ( 1 )
[09:30] JRSthethird for Hellheart ( 2 )
[12:30] dferrantino for JRSthethird ( 1 )
[13:54] Rictus for JRSthethird ( 2 )
[17:05] sphenodont for rekard ( 1 )
[18:58] rekard for JRSthethird ( 3 )
[19:19] Blindsniper for JRSthethird ( 4 )
[19:53] Zark for JRSthethird ( 5 )
[20:25] Admetus for JRSthethird ( 6 )
[20:47] Hellheart for JRSthethird ( 7 )
[20:51] JRSthethird for Rictus ( 1 ) ----------------> Hellheart ( 1 )

[+] Day 4
sphenodont - 3 - Hellheart, Admetus, dferrantino, Hellheart
DOM - 3 - dferrantino, Rictus, sphenodont, Blindsniper, Hellheart
Rictus - 1 - DOM, JRSthethird
rekard - 1 - JRSthethird
Blindsniper - 1 - rekard
[10:04] dferrantino for DOM ( 1 )
[14:13] DOM for Rictus ( 1 )
[15:19] Hellheart for sphenodont ( 1 )
[16:28] Rictus for DOM ( 2 )
[19:22] JRSthethird for Rictus ( 2 )
[19:37] sphenodont for DOM ( 3 )
[20:25] Blindsniper for DOM ( 4 )
[22:34] Admetus for sphenodont ( 2 )
[22:44] dferrantino for sphenodont ( 3 ) ----------------> DOM ( 3 )
[22:55] JRSthethird for rekard ( 1 ) ----------------> Rictus ( 1 )
[23:17] rekard for Blindsniper ( 1 )
[23:34] Hellheart for DOM ( 4 ) ----------------> sphenodont ( 2 )
[23:36] Hellheart for sphenodont ( 3 ) ----------------> DOM ( 3 )

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 11 Jan 2017, 23:18:29

Not seeing many potential hints from Blindsniper.

Day 2: No hints. Doesn't he usually vote for dferrantino early on? It'd be odd for him to vote a dferrantino wolf peek here without some sort of later hint.

Day 3: This post could be a Hellheart-human peek. He votes for JRS here. That's kind of the expected automatic vote at that point regardless.

Day 4: A vote for DOM and saying that JRS shouldn't control the vote.
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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Jrsthethird » 11 Jan 2017, 23:20:24

On the bright side, we nailed the seer.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 11 Jan 2017, 23:21:22

Blindsniper could've peeked DOM wolf on Night 3, but I get the sinking feeling that he peeked Zark on night 3. Zark would've been a damn good target at that point.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 11 Jan 2017, 23:30:05

I have human leans on rictus, Admetus, and dferrantino.

I have a JRSthethird wolf read. Surprise!

For me, it's between DOM and rekard. DOM makes more sense to me, but wolf-rekard is not going to change his vote on Day 2. So either of them could work as the 3rd wolf.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby DastardlyOldMan » 12 Jan 2017, 06:48:15

I'm just going to highlight the +1 vote from a previously unknown source yesterday, and suggest that while sphenodont and I might have battled with each other publicly in a cred-buying maneuver, I think that sphenodont using his powers on me behind-the-scenes might be stretching it for wolf-on-wolf ploys.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby dferrantino » 12 Jan 2017, 07:13:21

DastardlyOldMan wrote:I'm just going to highlight the +1 vote from a previously unknown source yesterday, and suggest that while sphenodont and I might have battled with each other publicly in a cred-buying maneuver, I think that sphenodont using his powers on me behind-the-scenes might be stretching it for wolf-on-wolf ploys.

Having had that specific power 2 games ago, I think the extra vote on you yesterday means literally nothing.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby DastardlyOldMan » 12 Jan 2017, 07:20:54

Your power was a) publicly known, and b) an additive to the person's vote ("Buff" of their own vote), not an extra vote against the target, so, um, exactly the same, only opposite? Since it was a publicly known wolf-power of the alpha, it certainly had different connotations.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby dferrantino » 12 Jan 2017, 07:30:20

DastardlyOldMan wrote:Your power was a) publicly known, and b) an additive to the person's vote ("Buff" of their own vote), not an extra vote against the target, so, um, exactly the same, only opposite? Since it was a publicly known wolf-power of the alpha, it certainly had different connotations.

a) Irrelevant. All of our powers will be publicly known at some point so that has to be considered before it's used. Especially if you're a wolf and have other people to discuss it with.
b) Sure, but the logic follows similarly. The Vizzini is strong enough here that a power like that is pretty much useless as a signalling tool, and the fact that you have to use it the night before makes it just as useless as a vote manipulation tool.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby The Fairy Catmother » 12 Jan 2017, 10:35:26

The GM says this:


You are at *potential* lynch or lose.


SO sorry for the late notice; the rules are weird for this game and I didn't notice the LOL possibility til now.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 11:42:53

How is that even...do we have a pair of lovers in this game? Outside of that, it would take some weird rule indeed.

Out of my human leans, Rictus is actually the weakest. Admetus has some strong votes and really felt human to me yesterday. Dferrantino hard-defended me on Day 3 and started the voting on JRS, which is super anti-wolf at that point in the game. Rictus has felt human off of a couple of small posts yesterday, but that's it.

sphenodont's +1 vote on DOM came at a time when DOM is never going to get heat. If sphenodont gets lynched, he flips wolf and DOM looks like a hero. When stdio gets lynched and flips human, JRS/Zark/me all look really bad so DOM is never going to be a major wagon on Day 4.

It's a good time to pull something like that.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby dferrantino » 12 Jan 2017, 12:47:40

Last night's votes make me think it's either DOM or Rictus (I can't imagine only one defensive wolf vote there, so either DOM's human and Rictus is a wolf, or DOM's the wolf), and the setup on D2 sticks with me there. DOM pushed sphenodont--which is odd for someone with a penalty but also isn't out of character for him specifically so I'm neutral on this read--but Rictus followed him and put sphenodont up 3-1-1, which reads human. Assuming DOM is around at night but doesn't post, he can either switch his vote and look like a wolf or leave it there and hope the vote swings towards stdio. That's a reach, though.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 12:52:37

I honestly think Rictus has the vote-switching power and targeted himself that day. He voted sphenodont specifically so he could hop off onto the other tied wagon if it was merited. If he can only target himself, it's almost certainly a human power since it's so bloody obvious.

If the wolves had the vote-switching power, JRS would have never risked himself to begin with.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 14:19:12

Actually, thinking about it now, I think it's very unlikely that Rictus is a wolf based on Day 2 alone. If he's a wolf he's either not putting the 3rd vote on wolf-sphenodont, or he is with the intention of using his power to switch, in which case JRS doesn't change his vote.

He could be a neutral considering how quiet he's been. It's possible for a one-shot serial killer neutral to screw himself by killing a human after a human lynch and successful maul. 4 players, 2 wolves, wolves reach parity.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby DastardlyOldMan » 12 Jan 2017, 14:27:52

OK - I'll just push on that one more time - sphenodont, on Day 2, literally called me his main witch suspect and then that night used his power on me. I guess I'm just not seeing the evidence of cooperation here, or maybe it's the inconsistency.

There were three people that didn't vote for JRS when he was lynched: myself, JRS, and sphenodont. Yes, Vizzini, but DOM-as-wolf doesn't run around putting up signs screaming "Pick me!" I actively tried to lynch sphenodont on Day 2; he in turn set me up as a potential target on Day 3 - even when he was making his Day 2 vote. Why that didn't get followup on Day 3, I don't know, especially with JRS' early vote, so I can see why it looks like a red herring. That said, him not actively trying to kill me (until yesterday) doesn't make us on the same team; I'm just not seeing that reasoning.

I absolutely hate Hellheart's switching around on Day 2; the wolves probably knew that they had vote manip working on stdio and wanted to keep the wagons close. That said, I don't read anything other than soft-clear on blindsniper's "we machines have to stick together" comment.

dfer's showing the tiniest bit of wolf-tell this morning, but I think that's more end-game activity than wolf. He's probably a close second, but for now, I'm going back to
#Vote for: Admetus
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Want to revisit maul choices before EOD and see if they point anywhere.

The wolves get an alpha, how come we don't get some kind of unkillable ally to help us out?
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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 15:12:01

I'm going to go with
#Vote for: DastardlyOldMan
. For me, it's more than the voting and the skeezy posts that other people pointed out yesterday.

He had a reasonable justification for voting me on Day 3, but I feel like human-DOM would have keyed in on JRS's post that tied stdio and sphenodont. He kind of half-calls out JRS in that vote post, but it's buried between vote manipulation analysis and he calls me out in the same sentence.

I don't see how human-DOM could vote for Rictus on Day 4 with the justification he gave, given that JRS had just been revealed as Alpha. Day 2 is completely unresolved at that point, yet DOM totally ignores that and gives a pretty weak justification for voting Rictus. Mind you, Rictus put the 2nd vote on JRS the prior day. I would've expected more of an explanation with a vote like that.

It's too much for me to overlook. DOM could just be making a bunch of mistakes, explaining himself poorly, and having a couple of bad days. Or he could be the 3rd wolf.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Rictus » 12 Jan 2017, 17:32:36

So we found a witch and we are at a possible lynch or lose? I guess we were at lynch or lose yesterday as well. Ugh!

JRSthethird - alpha witch
dferrantino
Admetus
rekard
Rictus
Hellheart
DastardlyOldMan

I have a 20% chance of finding a witch by random voting. Which, based on my last few games, is actually a better chance than if I was to actively try and find her/him. But I will charge on!

I reviewed yesterday's votes when DOM was up to 4 with no alternatives (starting here)

Bottom line: reviewing the last hour and half of yesterday has me leaning human on Admetus and dferrantino for pushing sphenodont up to 3.

rekard I don't trust. His vote post was analysis, but now that spheno has flipped wolf it doesn't look like *good* analysis.

Hellheart is out and in the open this whole game, and I think has been doing some very humanish analysis. His Day 2 actions seem human to me. Early in the day he put sphenodont at 4 votes... way out in front. seems dangerous to do that if he was a fellow wolf.

That leaves DOM and rekard. Of the two, I pick
#Vote for: rekard
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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Rictus » 12 Jan 2017, 17:38:59

DastardlyOldMan: 1 : Hellheart
Admetus: 1 : DastardlyOldMan
rekard: 1 : rictus

Yet to vote:

JRSthethird - alpha witch
dferrantino
Admetus
rekard
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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Jrsthethird » 12 Jan 2017, 18:06:10

Is there even anything I can say at this point that will influence anybody?

#Vote for: jrsthethird
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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Rictus » 12 Jan 2017, 18:31:35

Jrsthethird wrote:Is there even anything I can say at this point that will influence anybody?

#Vote for: jrsthethird



You could tell us who you are going to maul, I suppose.
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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Jrsthethird » 12 Jan 2017, 18:41:08

Rictus wrote:
Jrsthethird wrote:Is there even anything I can say at this point that will influence anybody?

#Vote for: jrsthethird



You could tell us who you are going to maul, I suppose.


I honestly have no idea.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 18:43:54

I'm getting this dreadful feeling that there's a 3rd faction that we have no idea about.

I'd still rather deal with the wolves first.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Admetus » 12 Jan 2017, 20:19:45

Still not feeling great, slept most of the day. I'd rather not be showing up late every day, but it's better than missing I guess.

We're looking for just one wolf besides Jrsthethird. Rictus looks fine especially because of Day 2, which is too early to be aggressively sacrificing wolves. dferrantino looks good because wolf dferrantino could always just disappear for the day instead of swinging the vote in spheno's favor. As I understand it, he cultivates that style as a human so he can use it as a wolf. Hellheart flopping to DOM scared me a bit at the end of the night (edit- because it seemed to contradict what he was arguing), but since he ended up on spheno, all's well that ends well.

Still, I think Hellheart is the one I'd be least surprised if it wasn't one of the more straightforward candidates, DOM or rekard.

DOM is voting for me, which is a strange play for a wolf. I'm not the candidate you're going to get much traction on. A wolf would be hunting easier prey. The only way I'm a wolf is if I was willing to make a "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" style risk yesterday -- and the wolves all decided to do a vote stack on Day 2. I am absolutely not the kind of wolf player that would participate in a complete wolf run on the alternate wagon to save a wolf Day 2.

I don't like rekard's voting record. It's very much "stay under the radar." The thing that most stands out on rekard's record is his off wagon vote yesterday. He even talks about how he could see spheno as a wolf, and then dumps the vote on Blindsniper. It seems to me very plausibly like a wolf being completely unwilling to sink the deciding vote on a human in favor of a wolf. So between the two of them, I think rekard is much more wolfy.

#Vote for: rekard

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 20:31:17

Yeah, but rekard does that. Admittedly he does it less late in the game, but when he said that it made total sense to me because I've had clashes with him over that before.

E: I don't mind voting for rekard, though, as long as there's no 3rd faction. We can afford a mislynch.
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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Admetus » 12 Jan 2017, 20:36:12

When picking between the likely candidates, I'll take the one acting more like a wolf. I don't think DOM's vote today rules him out, but if I was a wolf, it wouldn't be where I'd be going.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 20:37:33

Yeah, I can see where you're going with that. It could also be kind of a defeated vote. Or maybe some weird appeal to you.

But rekard does read as like super under the radar. To the point where even "hey why is rekard alive this late, he must be a wolf!" hasn't been mentioned at all.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 20:42:27

I think the one thing that's really bothered me lately about DOM is the lack of promised effort. He was going to run wolf combinations yesterday. He said he'd look at maul choices today. Yet here we are, 20 minutes before EOD, and I've seen neither of those.

Is that normal for human-DOM, even/especially if he's under heat?

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby dferrantino » 12 Jan 2017, 20:43:16

Right, vote. Sticking with my gut:
#Vote for: DastardlyOldMan

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby dferrantino » 12 Jan 2017, 20:43:52

Also I don't actually know what EOD is.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby rekard » 12 Jan 2017, 20:45:36

Hello everyone. I am back from hell. The devil didn't send presents. That's what I called my job today.

Now now. First,Potential Lynch or Lose? That is.. unclear. Sounds to me like even if we do a good lynch, we could still lose? If it were a normal lynch or lose it would mean we have 3 wolves left which would mean we would have been on lynch or lose since yesterday. So we have to have two wolves, which means there is an impactful role or some hidden mechanic we're not aware of.

That seems unbalanced to the humans. Humans take out two wolves so to speak, in two days in a row and suddenly we are in lynch or lose? I'll reserve judgement until the end. Last game FCM made, it had one less wolf than normally expected, so working on those assumptions is not the best.

So looking at votes, it seems like those who voted sphenodont are in a safe place, but at the same time, how credible is for sphenodont to have survived further after that? It can be seen as a wolf attempting a lynch on another. to get some cred. Which has happened before with mixed results and it can apply to other people. The thing is that just tends for things to become more paranoid.

I can see things being as DOM and sphenodont being the last two wolves though with sphenodont being willing to throw his partner under the bus. Though if they were in the same team, I think they would be agreeing on each other to vote each other. So it is unlikely that they are both the wolves.

I never really trust Rictus since he has won two lone wolf victories with the same mannerisms. And his vote for sphenodont on day 2 was switched to the stdio, so that might not matter. And Hellheart, don't assume JRS wouldn't switch if Rictus was a wolf. We as humans assume the other side has vote switching properties. IF the wolves have vote switching properties, they can also assume the same from not wolves. So it seems like a good way to build human cred. I mean, if you notice his last votes have been a more like a revenge vote against DOM (right after he voted on him) or today he relies on what he says every game, where he doesn't trust me. It's a consistent pattern with him, no matter what allegiance I am.

So I'll
#Vote for: Rictus

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 20:47:51

Midnight EST is EOD.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 20:49:45

Okay, we need a vote change.

DOM - 2 - Hellheart, dferrantino
Rictus - 2 - DOM, rekard
rekard - 2 - Rictus, Admetus
JRSthethird - 1 - JRSthethird

Guess what'll happen if JRS is still around?

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby rekard » 12 Jan 2017, 20:50:36

Admetus wrote:
I don't like rekard's voting record. It's very much "stay under the radar." The thing that most stands out on rekard's record is his off wagon vote yesterday. He even talks about how he could see spheno as a wolf, and then dumps the vote on Blindsniper. It seems to me very plausibly like a wolf being completely unwilling to sink the deciding vote on a human in favor of a wolf. So between the two of them, I think rekard is much more wolfy.

#Vote for: rekard


No. It's called having a lot of work. I have been having periods with a lot of work in the past few months and people keep saying the same thing once and again.

Also one reason I was doubtful on sphenodont is that he could be the seer given some of his more sort of certain things he was saying. When someone starts to be more forward thinking someone is human, it can be that he's either a wolf or maybe a seer trying to be subtle. Though I was fine with either of them dying though.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Admetus » 12 Jan 2017, 20:51:16

Hellheart wrote:Okay, we need a vote change.

DOM - 2 - Hellheart, dferrantino
Rictus - 2 - DOM, rekard
rekard - 2 - Rictus, Admetus
JRSthethird - 1 - JRSthethird

Guess what'll happen if JRS is still around?

Bah. I am willing to vote for DOM, though I do think DOM is less likely than rekard. Anyone else?

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 20:51:51

I'm ~okay with switching to rekard. I understand his case against Rictus, but Rictus putting the 3rd vote on sphenodont is really, really hard to discredit. Like that's a lone wolf play if I've ever seen one.

I'm kind of against voting for people just because they're good as lone wolves, at least before final 3. They're good as lone wolves because they make good humans. It's bad policy to kill good humans because they might possibly be good human players as a wolf as well.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 20:52:08

Why do you think DOM is human?

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby DastardlyOldMan » 12 Jan 2017, 20:53:37

I don't know whether to be flattered that you guys think that sphenodont and I really played the long game that long, or head-desked because you guys are still chasing after me.

HH, I was voting on Admetus, not Rictus. Your vote count is wrong.

I'll move to
#Vote for: rekard
, because I know I'm the wrong lynch when we're at lynch-or-lose.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 20:55:08

You know what, that sphenodont-seer thing from rekard is all kinds of gross. I mean, there's mailing it in, and then there's REALLY MAILING IT IN.

That alone tips the balance in favor of
#Vote for: rekard

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby rekard » 12 Jan 2017, 20:55:18

Hellheart wrote:Why do you think DOM is human?


If DOM and sphenodont are both wolves:

Sphenodont would be voting for a wolf as a wolf. I would say that if that were the case, DOM would be voting for sphenodont as to make themselves more survivable since DOM could still be on the spotlight. If two wolves are already on the chopping block, then vote for the other and gain as much cred as you want.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby rekard » 12 Jan 2017, 20:56:47

Hellheart wrote:I'm ~okay with switching to rekard. I understand his case against Rictus, but Rictus putting the 3rd vote on sphenodont is really, really hard to discredit. Like that's a lone wolf play if I've ever seen one.

I'm kind of against voting for people just because they're good as lone wolves, at least before final 3. They're good as lone wolves because they make good humans. It's bad policy to kill good humans because they might possibly be good human players as a wolf as well.


That's why Rictus has won. If he knew the vote was going to be switched, then it's no real credit if you think about it. What does it matter if he is the third vote if the vote is getting switched either way?

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 20:58:13

Oh wait, nevermind. Seer revealed today, not yesterday. Apparently I'm the one mailing it in O_O

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Admetus » 12 Jan 2017, 20:59:22

Over-active end of days ... it's been a while since we had that problem.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Jrsthethird » 12 Jan 2017, 20:59:34

Big wagon on my original snipe target
#Vote for: rekard

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 20:59:40

If he knows the vote is going to be switched off of a wolf, he's not going to make that vote in the first place.

He can cry all he wants about it being somebody else's power, but that just looks like all kinds of bad.

I do feel like there's a good chance he's a neutral.

Still staying on rekard because DOM's vote makes it the best way to go, given JRS is still at large.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby rekard » 12 Jan 2017, 20:59:48

Hellheart wrote:You know what, that sphenodont-seer thing from rekard is all kinds of gross. I mean, there's mailing it in, and then there's REALLY MAILING IT IN.

That alone tips the balance in favor of
#Vote for: rekard


Because I thought he could be a seer, which is why I did have my doubts about potentialy killing the seer if he were one. But either way, you're wrong.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Hellheart » 12 Jan 2017, 20:59:56

#Vote for: DOM

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby Rictus » 12 Jan 2017, 21:00:12

rekard wrote:Hello everyone. I am back from hell. The devil didn't send presents. That's what I called my job today.

So I'll
#Vote for: Rictus


I'm glad you have work (yay more money!) but that's a terrible vote. :)
Charming, to the last.
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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby rekard » 12 Jan 2017, 21:02:08

Hellheart wrote:If he knows the vote is going to be switched off of a wolf, he's not going to make that vote in the first place.

He can cry all he wants about it being somebody else's power, but that just looks like all kinds of bad.

I do feel like there's a good chance he's a neutral.

Still staying on rekard because DOM's vote makes it the best way to go, given JRS is still at large.


Hellheart. It's called persuasion. Even if it looks bad, if he says it's another one's power, it is still very credible because no one knows anything. Either way, get at him after you see how wrong you are again.

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Re: Day 5: The Blacksmith

Postby The Fairy Catmother » 12 Jan 2017, 21:03:38

Day 5 has ended.


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