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Night 5

Postby Omega » 13 Oct 2013, 18:23:30

Now it get's fun!

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Re: Night 5

Postby rekard » 13 Oct 2013, 18:55:22

Well I guess today Blind gets to revive stigmata.

Also the day 1 text says 4 figures killed someone. Would that be a group vig kill or what? Other nights had shadows killing people.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Blindsniper83 » 13 Oct 2013, 19:01:29

I will send that pm to omega when I get back into town from thanksgiving guess I didn't miss much though
RaveBomb making a lot of sense is how you know you're past the point of no return and that death is the only escape.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 13 Oct 2013, 19:04:38

Blindsniper83 wrote:I will send that pm to omega when I get back into town from thanksgiving guess I didn't miss much though

Actually I'm not sure reviving stigmata is the best move.

I think maybe revive MEM instead?

Make it look like the Romulans are in control of the power so that they'll be a bigger threat?

EDIT: let's talk about it during day. A lot will depend on who Augie decides to kill. There's a good chance it will be rekard or me, unfortunately.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Mortus » 13 Oct 2013, 19:27:43

Omega wrote:
Mister E. Meat wrote:I am on board. Vig rekard and vote for sphenodont.


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I wonder if I should vote for sphen and see if I can't trick him into thinking I'm on his side.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 13 Oct 2013, 19:29:42

Mortus wrote:
Omega wrote:
Mister E. Meat wrote:I am on board. Vig rekard and vote for sphenodont.


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I wonder if I should vote for sphen and see if I can't trick him into thinking I'm on his side.

Too late-- MEM died last night.

Did you PM anyone last night?

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 13 Oct 2013, 19:41:32

rekard wrote:Also the day 1 text says 4 figures killed someone. Would that be a group vig kill or what? Other nights had shadows killing people.

I think you mean the Day 5 opening post.

Also, "5 figures shrouded in black robes" were responsible for killing San on Night 3 (as revealed in Day 4 OP), so it looks like one of them died since then-- maybe Admetus or MEM? Or even possibly stigmata?

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 13 Oct 2013, 19:51:38

Omega wrote:You may claim your reward any time today, Red.

GM, letting Augie have all day to decide whom to kill seems VERY unfair. I mean, that death is supposed to be happening in the immediate aftermath of the battle, right?

I think you should make him pick someone by the halfway point of the day, or else lose the kill.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Omega » 13 Oct 2013, 21:32:22

I agree with you in principle certainly... Will think about how to handle.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 13 Oct 2013, 22:28:10

Omega wrote:I agree with you in principle certainly... Will think about how to handle.

Thanks-- I think the updated free kill rule is a good one.

And I see that Augie recently logged in, so I may be dying any second now!

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 13 Oct 2013, 22:29:24

Just looked at Admetus' Day 4 Role Reveal-- he had a Weapon!

If we're working on the assumption that only one player per team has a Weapon, then Augie can NOT be a Klingon!

So hopefully he'll take revenge on one of the players who voted for him!

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 13 Oct 2013, 23:13:27

GM, do undead players count towards parity win conditions?

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Re: Night 5

Postby Omega » 13 Oct 2013, 23:47:49

If you mean, does Ryvvn count as an active Romulan then no.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 00:26:07

Here's my current best guess team affiliations of the 10 remaining non-Cardassians--

ROMULANS (3?): Ryvvn, MEM (W), Okaros, DOM, Hellheart

KLINGONS (3?): Admetus (W), Wasabi, Furin, CAD, Griffypoo

FEDERATION (3?): Rictus (W), San, sphenodont, dferrantino, Visigoth

OTHER (1?): RaveBomb, Meta4, twdog, Augie

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Re: Night 5

Postby rekard » 14 Oct 2013, 00:28:29

Wasabi gave Augie the power to kill him. Talking about backfire. As such we can deduce that most players weren't willing to reveal their faction in detail.

At the same time, Admetus was actually voting on his own teammate on Day 2! Risking to kill him that early. I wonder why Admetus was willing to kill his own teammate that early. I disapprove of that given this is a team focused game but oh well.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Mortus » 14 Oct 2013, 10:20:07

Ozymandias wrote:
Mortus wrote:
Omega wrote:
Mister E. Meat wrote:I am on board. Vig rekard and vote for sphenodont.


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I wonder if I should vote for sphen and see if I can't trick him into thinking I'm on his side.

Too late-- MEM died last night.

Did you PM anyone last night?


I PM'd Hellheart, but it was hastily written since I was so damn busy yesterday.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 10:32:31

Mortus wrote:I PM'd Hellheart, but it was hastily written since I was so damn busy yesterday.

Cool. I would just keep using a variant of the message you sent MEM.

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Re: Night 5

Postby rekard » 14 Oct 2013, 10:46:34

Ozy. How confident are you on Augie being a sociopath?

I still need to guess who Garak is. I am nit ckear though if Garak coukd also belong tobthe Federation.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 10:52:44

rekard wrote:Ozy. How confident are you on Augie being a sociopath?

We know who had a Weapon on each of the four teams-- MEM, Admetus, Rictus, and you.

So if we assume that a Weapon was required to defeat the Beast, then Augie must be a Sociopath.

Also note that Sociopath twdog had a Weapon-- I think it makes sense that every Sociopath / Non-Aligned would have one (note that Meta4 and Rave died before Weapons were assigned).

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 10:58:38

From the Leaders' Council:

Omega wrote:Well, wasn't that fun! And here the Cardassians worried about the beast from El Adrel!

Today you again get to vote! And while I promised a clean lynch today, I have something in mind for tomorrow. :twisted:

Your proposals for today.

Option 1: On Day 6, a randomly selected player from each team will receive a power up (possibly temporary, possibly permanent)

or

Option 2: On Day 6, the team of the lynched player will receive a team-power powerup.

I think Option 1 is our best bet, since we're the least likely team to get lynched due to our control of 5 of the 15 votes.

Though however we vote, we shouldn't do so until near the end since other teams will be inclined to vote the opposite way.

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Re: Night 5

Postby rekard » 14 Oct 2013, 11:20:33

It makes sense. Imagine the disappointment of th Klingons. They were about to mass snipe and BAM, it all goes to hell.

I'll do a guess for Garai today.

But yes. Option 1 today. As the team with advantage, we should not flaunt that card much.

Also I don't think the other teams will do Option 2 since it puts them at a disadvantage.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 11:28:31

GM, I think you should announce when EOD is in the Day thread.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 11:45:00

In terms of lynch vote strategy, I think today we want to put pressure on CAD's team, since they're shorthanded with CAD immobilized.

I think CAD is most likely a Klingon, because he put the 5th vote on Romulan Ryvvn on Day 2 that helped Klingon Wasabi, and Feds Rictus and San both voted for CAD on Day 3.

And I think the two other most likely Klingons are:

Furin (Day 1 2nd vote for stigmata that helped Klingon Admetus, Day 2 6th vote for Ryvvn that helped Klingon Wasabi)
Griffypoo (Day 1 3rd vote for stigmata that helped Klingon Admetus + ninja switched that vote from Mortus --> non-Klingon wouldn't care)

I can vote for Furin later, since he voted for me on Day 3.

Mortus, maybe you should vote for Griffypoo?

I suppose you could bring up his Day 1 ninja switch if you think it will help ...

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 11:59:22

Interesting how Furin voted so soon after Griffy picked up a vote.

Blindsniper, if you want to revenge vote for Furin, I think that would work well for us.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 12:20:44

Thanks, blind. Are you going to be around at EOD, which right now I think is 8 PM EDT?

Because the other question of the day is whether to revive stigmata.

I hate to say it, but I'm inclined to let the Romulans keep thinking they permanently gained a player back, and not revive another player for now.

Thoughts?

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Re: Night 5

Postby rekard » 14 Oct 2013, 13:13:50

As long as we are able to coordinate the foreign votes we can keep Ryyvn in maybe. If the Romulans lose another we revive another player to give a different illusion.

Who do we want to make Ryyvn vote for?

I am guessing we can't do it by proxy. Ryyvn will be more reckless since he already died and everyone knows who he is. He will snipe for sure, so we should control that vote early.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 13:17:53

rekard wrote:As long as we are able to coordinate the foreign votes we can keep Ryyvn in maybe. If the Romulans lose another we revive another player to give a different illusion.

Who do we want to make Ryyvn vote for?

I am guessing we can't do it by proxy. Ryyvn will be more reckless since he already died and everyone knows who he is. He will snipe for sure, so we should control that vote early.

Not sure what you mean? Presumably blindsniper can just PM Omega with Ryvvn's actual vote. I doubt Ryvvn will be informed.

Who we want Ryvvn to vote for depends on whether Blind or Mortus gets in lynch trouble.

If they don't, then we should keep Ryvvn's vote on whomever he publicly votes for, so that no one suspects we control his vote.

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Re: Night 5

Postby rekard » 14 Oct 2013, 13:33:30

I meant if we can control the vote redirection if Blind is not being able to be around.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 15:01:21

Lynch Vote Tally:

Cardassian controlled-votes in Blue

Griffy - 2 - Okaros, Augie
Furin - 2 - Blindsniper, Ozy
DOM - 2 - rekard, Visigoth
Mortus - 1 - DOM
Blindsniper - 1 - Furin

Yet to Vote - 6 - dferr, Griffy, Hellheart, Mortus, Ryyvn, spheno
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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 15:26:15

Mortus, now would be a great time to put a third vote on Griffypoo.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 16:17:43

Lynch Vote Tally:

Cardassian controlled-votes in Blue

DOM - 4 - rekard, Visigoth, Hellheart, dferrantino
Griffy - 3 - Okaros, Augie, Mortus
Furin - 2 - Blindsniper, Ozy
Blindsniper - 2 - Furin, Ryyvn
Mortus - 1 - DOM

Yet to Vote - 2 - Griffy, spheno

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 16:30:08

So blind, you're in a slight bit of lynch danger.

If you get another vote, then I think you should switch Ryvvn's vote off of you.

But if not, and you're willing to risk it, I think leaving it on you would be best.

But if you do that you really should stay online for the next 30 minutes just to be safe.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 16:49:10

Current best guess team affiliations of the 10 remaining non-Cardassians--

ROMULANS (3?): Ryvvn, MEM (W), Okaros, DOM, sphenodont

KLINGONS (3?): Admetus (W), Wasabi, Furin, CAD, Griffypoo

FEDERATION (3?): Rictus (W), San, dferrantino, Visigoth, Hellheart

OTHER (1?): RaveBomb, Meta4, twdog, Augie
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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 16:49:57

Lynch Vote Tally:

Cardassian controlled-votes in Blue

DOM - 4 - rekard, Visigoth, Hellheart, dferrantino
Griffy - 4 - Okaros, Augie, Mortus, spheno
Furin - 2 - Blindsniper, Ozy
Blindsniper - 2 - Furin, Ryyvn
Mortus - 1 - DOM

Yet to Vote - 1 - Griffy

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 16:55:25

Blindsniper, you seem pretty safe, so I would leave Ryvvn's vote on you.

But obviously up to you.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 16:56:00

Also, Blindsniper, I think you should resurrect SAN tonight.

It will be a lot easier to control his vote, since he'll have to post it earlier.

EDIT: that will also make it less suspicious when you revive a Cardassian.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Blindsniper83 » 14 Oct 2013, 16:57:53

Thinking I should swap it tonight and res stig tonight .. Have fun with bodies lol
RaveBomb making a lot of sense is how you know you're past the point of no return and that death is the only escape.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 16:58:44

Blindsniper83 wrote:Thinking I should swap it tonight and res stig tonight .. Have fun with bodies lol

Why swap the votes? You're three votes behind Griffy now.

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Re: Night 5

Postby rekard » 14 Oct 2013, 16:59:24

Let's leave it like it curently is. Ryyvn not being trusted is a brilliaant consequence.

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Re: Night 5

Postby Ozymandias » 14 Oct 2013, 16:59:58

rekard wrote:Let's leave it like it curently is. Ryyvn not being trusted is a brilliaant consequence.

Agreed.


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