Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

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Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby sphenodont » 04 Feb 2014, 19:36:08

It was only to be expected that the day after Frungyfest would stretch on endlessly — especially for those who had been up far too late partying (or cleaning up after those partying) — but this was pretty absurd. Nonetheless, the villagers eventually emerged from their homes and debated the finer points of whether or not to elect a truly insane individual to lead them, or to let the truly malicious one guide them.

Near the end, it looked like it was down to a nail-biting finish (not that any of the villagers had fingernails), but as the last ballot was pulled from the voting bucket, Nitestorm ended up victorious.

He shoved his way to the front of the crowd and grabbed the Sombrero of Destiny, feeling the stirrings of some ancient deja vu as he propped it up on his head. "Ha! Clearly you have seen fit to give me the authority to KILL OZYMANDIAS!!!"

Nitestorm - elected Sheriff

Ozymandias smirked as he pointed to the chalkboard on the other side of the town square, where Nitestorm and Mister E. Meat were clearly marked out as the most likely do-badders in town.

Nitestorm laughed. "Clearly, this is a ploy to usurp my authority! How can you sheep listen to Ozymandias, who is surely waiting to tear you to ribbons after lulling you to sleep with his convoluted arguments! Listen to me, Citizens! I will protect you!" And with that, he grabbed Mister E. Meat and dragged him across the square to the old decorative cannon. "I think we can put this to good use, don't you?"

"I wouldn't do that if I were you," Egon warned. "That thing's an antique! It hasn't been used since the Brixon administration!"

Nitestorm tossed his head back and cackled as he lit the fuse. "Just what a wolf wou—"

*boom*

When the dust cleared, all that was left of Nitestorm was his legs and the still-unblemished Sombrero.

Nitestorm - lynched - villager

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby sphenodont » 04 Feb 2014, 19:36:30

[+] Sheriff Voting History
Nitestorm votes for Nitestorm
RaveBomb votes for 7-zark-7 (retracted)
rekard votes for Visigoth (retracted)
Mister E. Meat votes for No Sheriff (retracted)
Ozymandias votes for No Sheriff (retracted)
DastardlyOldMan votes for Clearasday
7-zark-7 votes for Nitestorm
Omega votes for Clearasday
FurinMirado votes for FurinMirado (retracted)
Hellheart votes for Admetus
Ozymandias votes for Admetus (retracted)
Smirker votes for Smirker (retracted)
Visigoth votes for Ozymandias
Simple_Simon votes for Ozymandias
Iron Clad Burrito votes for Nitestorm
Augenvonsauron votes for Nitestorm
Blindsniper83 votes for Simple_Simon
Smirker votes for Nitestorm
Clearasday votes for FurinMirado
Ozymandias votes for Clearasday(retracted)
twdog votes for RaveBomb
Meta4 votes for No Sheriff
Mister E. Meat votes for FurinMirado
Ozymandias votes for FurinMirado
Ryvvn votes for Admetus
necklessone votes for Clearasday
RaveBomb votes for Nitestorm
Admetus votes for Admetus (retracted)
rekard votes for Clearasday
stigmata votes for Nitestorm
dferrantino votes for Nitestorm
Ozymandias votes for Clearasday
Rictus votes for Nitestorm
FurinMirado votes for Clearasday
Admetus votes for Clearasday
Aldax votes for Clearasday


Sheriff Voting Totals
Nitestorm - 9 - Nitestorm, 7-zark-7, Iron Clad Burrito, Augenvonsauron, Smirker, RaveBomb, stigmata, dferrantino, Rictus
Clearasday - 8 - DastardlyOldMan, Omega, Ozymandias (retracted), necklessone, rekard, Ozymandias, FurinMirado, Admetus, Aldax
FurinMirado - 2 - FurinMirado (retracted), Clearasday, Mister E. Meat, Ozymandias (retracted)
Ozymandias - 2 - Visigoth, Simple_Simon
Admetus - 2 - Hellheart, Ozymandias (retracted), Ryvvn, Admetus (retracted)
Simple_Simon - 1 - Blindsniper83
RaveBomb - 1 - twdog
No Sheriff - 1 - Mister E. Meat (retracted), Ozymandias (retracted), Meta4
7-zark-7 - 0 - RaveBomb (retracted)
Visigoth - 0 - rekard (retracted)
Smirker - 0 - Smirker (retracted)


[+] Lynch Voting History
Hellheart votes for Stigmata
Nitestorm votes for Ozymandias
RaveBomb votes for 7-zark-7 (retracted)
rekard votes for Admetus
Mister E. Meat votes for Omega
DastardlyOldMan votes for Mister E. Meat
7-zark-7 votes for Clearasday
Omega votes for Mister E. Meat
Smirker votes for stigmata
Visigoth votes for Nitestorm
Simple_Simon votes for Ozymandias
FurinMirado votes for Nitestorm
Iron Clad Burrito votes for Admetus
Augenvonsauron votes for Clearasday (retracted)
Blindsniper83 votes for Simple_Simon
Ozymandias votes for Simple_Simon (retracted)
Clearasday votes for Nitestorm
San votes for Blindsniper83
Meta4 votes for RaveBomb
Ryvvn votes for dferrantino (retracted)
necklessone votes for Mister E. Meat
RaveBomb votes for Nitestorm
Admetus votes for Omega
stigmata votes for Ozymandias
dferrantino votes for Mister E. Meat
Ryvvn votes for stigmata
Ozymandias votes for stigmata (retracted)
Rictus votes for Admetus
Aldax votes for Admetus
twdog votes for Hellheart
Iron Clad Burrito votes for Mister E. Meat
Ozymandias votes for Nitestorm


Lynch Voting Totals
Nitestorm - 5 - Visigoth, FurinMirado, Clearasday, RaveBomb, Ozymandias
Mister E. Meat - 5 - DastardlyOldMan, Omega, necklessone, dferrantino, Iron Clad Burrito
Stigmata - 3 - Hellheart, Smirker, Ryvvn, Ozymandias (retracted)
Admetus - 3 - rekard, Iron Clad Burrito (retracted), Rictus, Aldax
Ozymandias - 3 - Nitestorm, Simple_Simon, stigmata
Clearasday - 2 - 7-zark-7, Augenvonsauron
Omega - 2 - Mister E. Meat, Admetus
Simple_Simon - 1 - Blindsniper83, Ozymandias (retracted)
Blindsniper83 - 1 - San
RaveBomb - 1 - Meta4
Hellheart - 1 - twdog
dferrantino - 0 - Ryvvn (retracted)
7-zark-7 - 0 - RaveBomb (retracted)

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby sphenodont » 04 Feb 2014, 19:38:56

Sadly, Nitestorm did not leave a clear line of succession, so the town was left without a stalwart guardian that night. So it was no surprise when the next day, the town square's festive banners were instead replaced with Admetus's intestines.

Admetus - mauled - villager


(GM Note: Nitestorm is dead, but will not be added to the dead thread until he chooses a successor.)

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Smirker » 04 Feb 2014, 19:43:03

Well, at least Nitestorm went out with a bang. That's almost how he would have wanted it. He would've just rather taken Ozy out in the explosion too...

But for a moment, a wonderful moment; Nitestorm had the power!

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Iron Clad Burrito » 04 Feb 2014, 19:46:35

Nitestorm, master exploded.

((frankly I think it was a dick move to lynch him, having been removed from the game for so long, but that's neither here nor there at this point and done is done.))

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Hellheart » 04 Feb 2014, 19:49:59

(( I didn't like ICB's vote reasoning; it just felt wrong. He moved off of Admetus to make that vote, effectively breaking two ties by dropping human-Admetus down to 3.

...His post above me makes more sense. Any reasoning for choosing MEM over Stigmata?

Ozy's only possible vote to re-tie was Nitestorm since he was already on Stigmata. Knowing MEM's affiliation would shed some light on both of these votes, but I'm not going to push MEM's lynch on those grounds alone.

EDIT: Thinking about it now, scratch the part about MEM's role. I think Ozy's vote to re-tie that is most likely role-neutral. ))

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby rekard » 04 Feb 2014, 19:52:12

So are we a lawless town today? Who shall be the new sheriff?

But for now let's start with a simple vote and continue from there. How casting a vote with the Iron Clad Burrito. May the debate start!

I would like this opportunity to thank the wolf cubs for mauling Admetus as I had suspected him a bit. I am glad to know I was wrong. I am at peace.

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Iron Clad Burrito » 04 Feb 2014, 19:56:38

Hellheart wrote:(( I didn't like ICB's vote reasoning; it just felt wrong. He moved off of Admetus to make that vote, effectively breaking two ties by dropping human-Admetus down to 3.

...His post above me makes more sense. Any reasoning for choosing MEM over Stigmata?


Nope.

((Completely a personal MO -- when people are returning after a long break, I just don't like taking them out on day 1. MEM vs. Stigmata was a random choice. But if someone else -- say you, for example -- were sitting in Nitestorm's spot, I wouldn't have moved my vote at all and just left the 4-way tie intact.))

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Smirker » 04 Feb 2014, 19:57:02

I must admit; I don't like the lack of a sheriff - because then it's another election for one. I'd rather a new sheriff be appointed today so that they can have an effect before the EOD.

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Hellheart » 04 Feb 2014, 19:59:06

rekard wrote:So are we a lawless town today? Who shall be the new sheriff?

But for now let's start with a simple vote and continue from there. How casting a vote with the Iron Clad Burrito. May the debate start!

I would like this opportunity to thank the wolf cubs for mauling Admetus as I had suspected him a bit. I am glad to know I was wrong. I am at peace.

Statement: Admetus felt like a furless meatbag to me.

Observation: ICB's vote draws an awful lot of attention for a lupine meatbag.

Commentary: His reasoning also rings true, although he could always have an additional motive for changing his vote.

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Observation: There still is a Sheriff. His identity has yet to be revealed.

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ozymandias » 04 Feb 2014, 20:00:31

Hellheart wrote:I think Ozy's vote to re-tie that is most likely role-neutral. ))

I was already very suspicious of ICB because he voted to elect Nitestorm Sheirff on both Day 0 and Day 1, which obviously has very negative consequences for me.

Also, I had the Wolfiness of the four leaders ranked as follows:

1. stigmata
2. Nitestorm
3. MEM
4. Admetus

So when ICB switched, countering his vote seemed like the best strategy.

Anyway, my top Wolf suspect is still stigmata-- and if he's a Wolf, then that increases the chances ICB is also a Wolf.
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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ozymandias » 04 Feb 2014, 20:04:22

Iron Clad Burrito wrote:((Completely a personal MO -- when people are returning after a long break, I just don't like taking them out on day 1.

Normally I would completely agree. But given the ramifications of Nitestorm being elected Sheriff, I hope you can understand why I felt compelled to switch my vote in this particular case.
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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Hellheart » 04 Feb 2014, 20:04:41

Query: What gave you the wolf read on Stigmata?

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Iron Clad Burrito » 04 Feb 2014, 20:06:02

Ozymandias wrote:I was already very suspicious of ICB because he voted to elect Nitestorm Sheirff on both Day 0 and Day 1, which obviously has very negative consequences for me.


Oh spare me. Very negative consequences? Nitestorm? Pshaw. I would have had no problems switching to Clearasday, but frankly now that Nitestorm's been revealed as human you'd have found THAT suspicious.

I think you're trying the whole "Make-a-scenario" game that Hellheart tried to play last game, where actions that don't fit your preconceived notions of what I SHOULD do will make me a wolf.

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ozymandias » 04 Feb 2014, 20:08:07

Iron Clad Burrito wrote:Oh spare me. Very negative consequences? Nitestorm? Pshaw. I would have had no problems switching to Clearasday, but frankly now that Nitestorm's been revealed as human you'd have found THAT suspicious.

Of course I do-- Nitestorm being Human makes him even MORE attractive as a Sheriff for the Wolves, since they could use him to kill me without directly getting their hands dirty. Isn't that pretty obvious?

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Hellheart » 04 Feb 2014, 20:10:33

Iron Clad Burrito wrote:
Ozymandias wrote:I was already very suspicious of ICB because he voted to elect Nitestorm Sheirff on both Day 0 and Day 1, which obviously has very negative consequences for me.


Oh spare me. Very negative consequences? Nitestorm? Pshaw. I would have had no problems switching to Clearasday, but frankly now that Nitestorm's been revealed as human you'd have found THAT suspicious.

I think you're trying the whole "Make-a-scenario" game that Hellheart tried to play last game, where actions that don't fit your preconceived notions of what I SHOULD do will make me a wolf.

(( Hey! Don't be taking completely unnecessary jabs at me here! I had solid vote reasonings that drove all of my wolf reads.

Still waiting on that Stigmata read. ))

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Iron Clad Burrito » 04 Feb 2014, 20:12:23

Ozymandias wrote:
Iron Clad Burrito wrote:Oh spare me. Very negative consequences? Nitestorm? Pshaw. I would have had no problems switching to Clearasday, but frankly now that Nitestorm's been revealed as human you'd have found THAT suspicious.

Of course I do-- Nitestorm being Human makes him even MORE attractive as a Sheriff for the Wolves, since they could use him to kill me without directly getting their hands dirty. Isn't that pretty obvious?


You do realize that if you're taking Nitestorm seriously, that brings the count to one, right?

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ozymandias » 04 Feb 2014, 20:16:07

Hellheart wrote:Query: What gave you the wolf read on Stigmata?

A Wolf almost always votes for me on Day 1, and his "oh poor me, Ozymandias makes me feel so stupid" shtick didn't ring true to me-- it sounded a lot more like a Wolf grasping for a flimsy rationale to justify (EDIT:) a vote that he knows will later be revealed as being cast for a Human.

Also, stigmata's late Sheriff vote for Nitestorm gave him a three-vote lead, so I viewed that as another attack.
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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ozymandias » 04 Feb 2014, 20:20:18

Iron Clad Burrito wrote:You do realize that if you're taking Nitestorm seriously, that brings the count to one, right?

What does taking him seriously have to with anything?

All that matters is whether the Wolves thought that Nitestorm would double vote to lynch me on Day Two-- and given that voting for me was the main plank in his campaign platform, I'm pretty sure they did.

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Hellheart » 04 Feb 2014, 20:21:18

Ozymandias wrote:
Hellheart wrote:Query: What gave you the wolf read on Stigmata?

A Wolf almost always votes for me on Day 1, and his "oh poor me, Ozymandias makes me feel so stupid" shtick didn't ring true to me-- it sounded a lot more like a Wolf grasping for a flimsy rationale to justify casting a vote.

Also, stigmata's late Sheriff vote for Nitestorm gave him a three-vote lead, so I viewed that as another attack.

(( You used the same reasoning as a wolf in The Wolfing Game, but I've honestly never played with you in a game where you got votes on Day 1 as a human. I need someone else to chip in on this.

However, I was bothered by the gap between Stigmata's response to my pre-emptive retaliation vote and his casting a lynch vote himself. ))

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Smirker » 04 Feb 2014, 20:21:49

Lynch: OzymandiasRETRACTED.

Somehow you are hitting lots of red flags with me today. You strike me as fearful, instead of courageous and ready to be analytical for the team.
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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ozymandias » 04 Feb 2014, 20:22:53

Hellheart wrote:However, I was bothered by the gap between Stigmata's response to my pre-emptive retaliation vote and his casting a lynch vote himself. ))

Does he often vote for you on Day 1?

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Hellheart » 04 Feb 2014, 20:27:42

Ozymandias wrote:
Hellheart wrote:However, I was bothered by the gap between Stigmata's response to my pre-emptive retaliation vote and his casting a lynch vote himself. ))

Does he often vote for you on Day 1?

(( He's done it in 2 out of 3 games since the Pratchett game, including the most recent Draker one - the first lynch vote there was on Day 2.

I always vote for him on Day 1, unless I'm voting to save myself, but I'm used to us both being singletons on each other pretty early on. ))

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ozymandias » 04 Feb 2014, 20:29:26

Smirker wrote:Lynch: Ozymandias.

Somehow you are hitting lots of red flags with me today. You strike me as fearful, instead of courageous and ready to be analytical for the team.

That's not entirely wrong-- I was fearful of Nitestorm being elected Sheriff, and that certainly affected my snipe.

But let me ask you something-- if I were part of a team of what are likely 7 wolves, do you really think I would have been that worried?

Or, for that matter, would have allowed Nitestorm to be elected Sheriff in the first place?
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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ozymandias » 04 Feb 2014, 20:31:46

Hellheart wrote:(( He's done it in 2 out of 3 games since the Pratchett game, including the most recent Draker one - the first lynch vote there was on Day 2.

I always vote for him on Day 1, unless I'm voting to save myself, but I'm used to us both being singletons on each other pretty early on. ))

Interesting. If neither of those two times was as a Wolf, then I suppose that's another potential tell against stigmata.

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Hellheart » 04 Feb 2014, 20:38:03

(( None of those 3 times were as a wolf. The one time he didn't - in twdog's map game - he was counter-voting Ryvvn. That vote came early as well.

I don't think voting for someone else is a tell for Stigmata, but I think the delay between his first post - where he had a chance to counter-vote me - and when he actually cast his vote is what bothers me. ))

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby rekard » 04 Feb 2014, 20:41:10

Hellheart wrote:
rekard wrote:So are we a lawless town today? Who shall be the new sheriff?

But for now let's start with a simple vote and continue from there. How casting a vote with the Iron Clad Burrito. May the debate start!

I would like this opportunity to thank the wolf cubs for mauling Admetus as I had suspected him a bit. I am glad to know I was wrong. I am at peace.

Statement: Admetus felt like a furless meatbag to me.

Observation: ICB's vote draws an awful lot of attention for a lupine meatbag.

Commentary: His reasoning also rings true, although he could always have an additional motive for changing his vote.

----

Observation: There still is a Sheriff. His identity has yet to be revealed.


And he did the same switfh in the Map game for "sentimental" reasons. And his reasoning rang true also in that game. And he was a wolf then. Similar circumstances. You can't confirm or discard anything at the moment but gotta get the ball rolling to see what people say.

This seems like you trying to defend the Burrito which is kinda weird for day 2. We can't be sure on anything. So you'll be on my watchlist.
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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ryvvn » 04 Feb 2014, 20:41:57

Just want to chime in a bit on ICB's vote switch thing...

Before changing my dferr vote to stigmata, I had originally thought about switching to MEM myself for similar reasons ICB is claiming for his switch; I'm totally not a fan of returning players being in such lynch danger on Day 1, even if those players are Ozy and Nitestorm. I intended to push MEM up, but then stigmata made a good target to just spread the dice roll, which I was comfortable enough with to take that stance instead. I think a 25% dice roll is acceptable for returning players, maybe ICB does not, but I still think that vote switch has reasoning beyond his "compassion"

Ozy's retaliatory vote switch makes 100% sense to me


edit: oh, right, also dferr already pushed MEM up some at that point

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Hellheart » 04 Feb 2014, 21:08:52

rekard wrote:And he did the same switfh in the Map game for "sentimental" reasons. And his reasoning rang true also in that game. And he was a wolf then. Similar circumstances. You can't confirm or discard anything at the moment but gotta get the ball rolling to see what people say.

This seems like you trying to defend the Burrito which is kinda weird for day 2. We can't be sure on anything. So you'll be on my watchlist.

(( No, his vote on me in the Map game was out of "anger," which in context made very little sense considering how much he stuck his neck out. That's the first and last time I've ever seen him actually give that as a reason. In contrast, he has stated at least one other time that he doesn't like lynching people who haven't played for a long time.

For reference/comparison, this is the post rekard is referring to: ))

Iron Clad Burrito wrote:There's something screwy on the vote tallies. 'Twas Zark, not Wasabi, that I put in a 3-way tie.

My switch to Hellheart was in anger. It's something I do regret, because it's uncharacteristic of me to do that, ESPECIALLY on day one when I have little-to-nothing to go on. He pushed a button that I don't generally appreciate having pushed. But whatcha gonna do? Somewhere down the line I'm sure I'll be repaid in spades for that.

Today I do vote randomly. I want to know what neckless picked up on Night 0 (because dammit, he beat me to whatever it was), but frankly that's the only information I have of use at this point. And I don't think day 2 is an analysis day, unless a seer wants to come out and say they found rekard as a wolf or something. But I doubt that. So... hey, why not Augen Von Sauron?


EDIT: For the record, I'm not saying that he's a human. I'm simply saying that his reasoning for the late tiebreaker vote matches the reasoning that, in my opinion, he would give for that vote as a human. Therefore, I'm completely neutral on him at the moment.

The vote itself is the issue here, as it was in the map game - where Ryvvn was far and away the wolfier candidate. The simple question is whether he would cast that vote to save what was, at most, one wolf in that 4-way tie.

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby rekard » 04 Feb 2014, 21:32:04

Dude. You have to stop heavily editing your posts after you post. It's a bit uncomfortable seeing a modified angle of your arguments and then having to respond appropiately.

But either way, "sentimental" reasons. Anger is still an emotion. Compassion is an emotion.

To paraphrase you, his vote on MEM was out of compassion for Nitestorm, and if a wolf makes little sense how he stuck his neck out. But still he made a very similar vote as a wolf in the map game. And in this one, he did too, and for a wolf it can still be a perfect excuse to switch a vote.

And I know that ICB has always expressed that is rude to kill newer or returning players too fast, but that doesn't mean he has taken action everytime when he sees that happening. That he has that stance doesn't reliably mean that he is human or wolf. That's what we have to find out on a per game basis.

I don't really understand your argument Hellheart. You talk as if you know how ICB will act or something to defend his actions. If it were day 4 or 5 I would understand but it is day 2, you have not much to go on to defend anyone reliably.

Also notice that I did not say any reason for my vote on ICB, and I still have not. Anything you thought was yourself assuming stuff.

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Hellheart » 04 Feb 2014, 22:17:15

I don't really understand your argument Hellheart. You talk as if you know how ICB will act or something to defend his actions. If it were day 4 or 5 I would understand but it is day 2, you have not much to go on to defend anyone reliably.

Also notice that I did not say any reason for my vote on ICB, and I still have not. Anything you thought was yourself assuming stuff.


(( I know you didn't give a reason, and I don't expect you to because you normally don't. I was simply giving my thoughts on the reasoning he provided for his vote. I felt at the end of Day 1 that his reasoning was bullshit and felt better about the reason he gave earlier today. You gave a strong counterpoint to my initial read and I have attempted to explain what I see as the difference as best I can, but I cannot outright refute what you say because it makes sense in context. The parallels are there.

The edit came because I was re-reading your post after I made my post and realized that I hadn't addressed your insinuations that I was attempting to defend him, which I am not. The vote in and of itself is still suspect. ))

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby stigmata » 04 Feb 2014, 22:37:28

Ozymandias wrote:
Hellheart wrote:I think Ozy's vote to re-tie that is most likely role-neutral. ))

I was already very suspicious of ICB because he voted to elect Nitestorm Sheirff on both Day 0 and Day 1, which obviously has very negative consequences for me.

Also, I had the Wolfiness of the four leaders ranked as follows:

1. stigmata
2. Nitestorm
3. MEM
4. Admetus

So when ICB switched, countering his vote seemed like the best strategy.

Anyway, my top Wolf suspect is still stigmata-- and if he's a Wolf, then that increases the chances ICB is also a Wolf.


whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby San » 05 Feb 2014, 02:05:05

lynch dferrantino

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Iron Clad Burrito » 05 Feb 2014, 06:17:14

Ozy's rationale for suspicion of me rings hollow. Frankly the only real danger of sheriff Nitestorm is when ozy is a leading lynch candidate. I don't / didn't see that happening for a while unless something obvious happened. I don't think he loses in close races very often. Feel free to prove me wrong on that, on the phone right now.

That said, I'd probably be less irritated with him had he voted for stig. Or was he just trying to protect MEM? Something doesn't make sense.

Probably not going to post again until later, I hate playing twg from the phone.

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby RaveBomb » 05 Feb 2014, 06:26:15

I'm sorry to see Nitestorm go, but I approve of the method of his removal. Brilliant! :D

So, who do we put up and pull down today?
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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby sphenodont » 05 Feb 2014, 06:42:56

[+] Zark makes a discovery
Image

7-zark-7: Well, I guess I might as well put this to good use!

[+] A Dramatic Entry
Image

Ozymandias: Not so fast, Mister!
Rictus: *oof*
7-zark-7: Finders keepers!
Ozymandias: Not if Nitestorm left that hat to me!

[+] He IS the Law
Image

7-zark-7: Why would he leave it to you? I– I– I–
Ozymandias: Deal with it.
Wasabi: *ring ring*

Ozymandias - declared Sheriff

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ozymandias » 05 Feb 2014, 07:01:16

sphenodont wrote:Ozymandias - declared Sheriff

Well played, Nitestorm.

This pretty much guarantees that I'm going to get mauled tonight.

In fact, I respectfully request that the Witch revive me if I get mauled.

Thanks to the two days of Sheriff voting, there's actually already quite a bit of voting data, and I feel like if I get a couple more data points I can do some fruitful analysis that will really help the Villagers. (And of course if I do get mauled, then the Witch will know that I'm not a Wolf.)

So I would very much like to survive until at least tomorrow.

Anyway: bravo, Nitestorm, bravo.

I guess I'll be seeing you soon enough in the dead thread ...

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby DastardlyOldMan » 05 Feb 2014, 07:22:37

Omega and necklessone both exactly echoed my lynch/sheriff vote. I can't say that's necessarily wolfy, but it triggered the old gut enough for a Day 2 vote.

And well played, Nitestorm. Well played indeed.

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ozymandias » 05 Feb 2014, 07:29:43

You know what?

The Sheriff elections were so much fun that I'm going to propose that we have ANOTHER election so that you can all weigh in on who should be the next Sheriff.

Assuming there are no known confirmed Villagers before I die, I promise to name whomever gets the most votes as my successor.

At the very least, this should be a relatively safe way for the Seer to reveal any Night 1 Villager visions-- if he so desires. If he doesn't, or if he seered a Wolf, then he either shouldn't vote for Sheriff (I doubt everyone will) or just vote for himself.

So please vote for both the lynch AND the next sheriff today!

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Mister E. Meat » 05 Feb 2014, 08:04:15

stigmata wrote:
Ozymandias wrote:
Hellheart wrote:I think Ozy's vote to re-tie that is most likely role-neutral. ))

I was already very suspicious of ICB because he voted to elect Nitestorm Sheirff on both Day 0 and Day 1, which obviously has very negative consequences for me.

Also, I had the Wolfiness of the four leaders ranked as follows:

1. stigmata
2. Nitestorm
3. MEM
4. Admetus

So when ICB switched, countering his vote seemed like the best strategy.

Anyway, my top Wolf suspect is still stigmata-- and if he's a Wolf, then that increases the chances ICB is also a Wolf.


whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

With this post, I'm suspicious of you too stigmata...

Edit: I'm not sure what Ozy's reasons are for you, but this comes across as a little wolfy.

And for sherrif, I guess I'd go with Furin again right now. I liked his reasoning in the day 1 thread.

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby necklessone » 05 Feb 2014, 08:10:50

Ozymandias wrote:
Smirker wrote:Lynch: Ozymandias.

Somehow you are hitting lots of red flags with me today. You strike me as fearful, instead of courageous and ready to be analytical for the team.

That's not entirely wrong-- I was fearful of Nitestorm being elected Sheriff, and that certainly affected my snipe.

But let me ask you something-- if I were part of a team of what are likely 7 wolves, do you really think I would have been that worried?

Or, for that matter, would have allowed Nitestorm to be elected Sheriff in the first place?

Per the GM, we're looking at 5 or 6 wolves.

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ozymandias » 05 Feb 2014, 08:16:58

necklessone wrote:Per the GM, we're looking at 5 or 6 wolves.

Ah, thanks for pointing that out.

For some reason, I thought those numbers pre-dated the increase to 27 players, but clearly not.

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Augenvonsauron » 05 Feb 2014, 08:58:45

Augie considered the almost poetic ending of sheriff Nitestorm, and his continued crusade against ozy from beyond the grave. Continuing on his libertarian hatred of efficient government, Augie wished to see Ravebomb Don the exalted sombrero in the eventual demise of ozy. As for the day's lynching, it seemed like a good time to suggest an alternative to Stigmata to at least make thing interesting...dferrantino, from using nothing more analytical than where he had fallen in the sweetspot of the days votes.

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Meta4 » 05 Feb 2014, 09:34:06

Let's lynch Ozymandias!
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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ryvvn » 05 Feb 2014, 09:46:11

Ozymandias wrote:This pretty much guarantees that I'm going to get mauled tonight.

In fact, I respectfully request that the Witch revive me if I get mauled.


...

(And of course if I do get mauled, then the Witch will know that I'm not a Wolf.)

Umm, the Witch would not know until the morning -- after using their one-time per game revive potion -- if you were actually a human, Ozy....

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby necklessone » 05 Feb 2014, 09:52:10

Just the fact that Ozy died in the night should be a strong indicator of humanity to the witch (unless the wolves are mauling each other to try and screw with the witch). I guess a wolf-Ozy could also die at night a Hunter revenge shot. Does the witch get cause of death when trying to decide to revive or not? For that matter, can she revive someone who died to a Hunter revenge shot?

*off to reread some rules*

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ryvvn » 05 Feb 2014, 09:57:00

necklessone wrote:Just the fact that Ozy died in the night should be a strong indicator of humanity to the witch (unless the wolves are mauling each other to try and screw with the witch). I guess a wolf-Ozy could also die at night a Hunter revenge shot. Does the witch get cause of death when trying to decide to revive or not? For that matter, can she revive someone who died to a Hunter revenge shot?

*off to reread some rules*

I'm not saying it's a good ploy, I'm just pointing out that rules-lawyer made a fairly big blunder there if I'm reading the rules correctly.

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ozymandias » 05 Feb 2014, 10:11:22

Ryvvn wrote:Umm, the Witch would not know until the morning -- after using their one-time per game revive potion -- if you were actually a human, Ozy....

Ryvvn wrote:I'm not saying it's a good ploy, I'm just pointing out that rules-lawyer made a fairly big blunder there if I'm reading the rules correctly.

From the rules thread:

sphenodont wrote:You are the Witch!
Additionally, at the end of each day, I will send a PM with the lynch and maul victims and if you can reply within five minutes, I will allow last-minute changes.

I don't know if the lynch and maul victims will be separately specified, but even if they're not, then:

(a) IF I'm not in lynch danger,
(b) AND I wind up as one of only two names in the GM's PM to the Witch,
(c) THEN the Wolf should be able to figure out that I was a Villager who was mauled.

Right? What am I missing?

(Other than the possibility suggested by necklessone that the Wolves may maul one of their own, which I admit did not occur to me.)

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby 7-zark-7 » 05 Feb 2014, 10:17:58

sphenodont wrote:Sadly, Nitestorm did not leave a clear line of succession, so the town was left without a stalwart guardian that night. So it was no surprise when the next day, the town square's festive banners were instead replaced with Admetus's intestines.

Admetus - mauled - villager


(GM Note: Nitestorm is dead, but will not be added to the dead thread until he chooses a successor.)


Followed later by

Zark makes a discovery, or at least so sphenodont wrote:Image
7-zark-7: Well, I guess I might as well put this to good use!

<<snip>>

Ozymandias - declared Sheriff


This is the worst definition of good use EVAR. I do admire the positioning of the hat though. A guy has to protect his modesty, after all.

More in a bit,

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Re: Day 02 - He is the Terror Who Storms In The Night?

Postby Ryvvn » 05 Feb 2014, 10:25:54

From the Role Card wrote:You are the Witch!
You have the special ability to take one life and give one life. You have two single-use abilities that are triggered as night actions. One is a poison that will kill any player without anyone else knowing it. The other is a life-restoring player that can bring any player back to life, so long as they died the day or night before (either to the lynch, hunter's shot, or maul).
You can save yourself from being shot or mauled, but not from being lynched.
You cannot both poison someone and save someone on the same night.
To help save time, you can send me a list via PM of the players you would be willing to use your potion to save, and I will assume it is current unless you update it or tell me otherwise. Additionally, at the end of each day, I will send a PM with the lynch and maul victims and if you can reply within five minutes, I will allow last-minute changes.
Finally, if you do save someone's life, you can choose whether to reveal your identity to them (via a PM from me).

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