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Night 4

Postby FurinMirado » 26 Feb 2014, 18:14:14

Visigoth has been eliminated by the fickle finger of random number generators.

San was merely a Resident.

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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 26 Feb 2014, 18:17:07

Now I think you might get a breather. Let's look for other folks to lynch now.

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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 26 Feb 2014, 21:19:17

Let's maul simple simon -> Hellheart today since both voted for Smirker and simon has voted twice for Smirker.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 26 Feb 2014, 22:17:34

Frown. I was really hoping to die there. Now that I didn't die, I need to survive past another wolf's death. I'm not sure I can make it that long, but I'll try.

If someone else gets sniped off first, I'll look very human. If I die first, I think the humans would know that between me and Visigoth, I wanted to be the one dead, and killing my entire vote train would probably eliminate the wolves.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 08:34:36

rekard wrote:Let's maul simple simon -> Hellheart today since both voted for Smirker and simon has voted twice for Smirker.

So you're trying to make it look like Smirker's a wolf? Because losing people willing to vote for Smirker might mean it's harder to get him lynched. I'm not sure which way it will go.

Alternatively, mauling twdog leaves them guessing.


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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 08:39:58

No. I mean, if the wolf bandwagons have too many people living, it will be harder to deduce a wolf from those wagons. If a wagon, let's say Visigoth has almost all its voters alive, people wonder "why are they still alive"? And it can feed the thoughts of wolf betraying wolves on the wrong targets.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 08:55:51

Ah, yes. I agree with that. But since we mauled San on Smirker's wagon yesterday, should we pick a different place? Otherwise it might look targeted at Smirker.

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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 09:24:36

Well, now that I think about it, maybe we could need humans to helps us. If we kill one of Smirker's voters, then we can plant a seed "Maybe Smirker is being setup" or "It is too obvious" and get Smirker on our side. And if he dies later, it gives us cred as we were believing Smirker.

Basically if we can build a confirmed human that is on our side, we can maul him safely after in our favor. That's my train of thought. Especially if we're losing a wolf or two today. We need to build subtle allies.

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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 09:36:29

What do you all think of my idea? Feasible? It's hard to go at it alone for anyone if we lose people. Any thoughts about the day thread?

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 09:42:58

It's workable. It may be aided by the fact that Ozymandias is dead. The story we'd be trying to sell is "the wolves are not as well lead now that Ozy's gone."

Thoughts on the day thread. I don't want to throw you under the bus, but if I'm voting for a human that gets lynched, I'm going to need to be more convincing tomorrow. We'll see how it goes. I may abandon Spheno and vote for you, or something. I just think if I have to survive to protect all of the rest of the wolves who voted on me yesterday, I can't take the reputation hit of being attached to a dead human.

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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 10:00:12

Funny thing that I should have posted earlier. I did not mention Nitestorm at all on purpose before because he would have just randomly voted for me on retaliation. The ideal thing would be for humans to get pushed by humans, so who knows what happens.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 10:01:13

Yeah I thought that might happen. But I don't think I'd censor myself as a human, so I just went with it.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 10:10:49

Two wolves in the lead again. Sigh.

rekard - 2 - stigmata 2.0, That PJ
Admetus - 2 - meta4, nitestorm
DastardlyOldMan - 1 - rekard
Meta4 - 1 - sphenodont
blindsniper83 - 1 - DastardlyOldMan
sphenodont - 1 - Admetus

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Re: Night 4

Postby Clearasday » 27 Feb 2014, 15:02:16

I'm back and I'm here for good now. sorry I had an assessment day yesterday that lasted late and then I crashed when I got home.

I suggest we do the classic WOLF TEAM EXPLODES move, which is essentially, we all spend from now until the end of the game only voting for other wolves. They won't see it coming.
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Re: Night 4

Postby Ryvvn » 27 Feb 2014, 15:14:10

I'm here, been casually following the day thread via phone while at work today, but haven't been able to look close enough to come up with a plausibly instinctual based vote on anyone new today... I have to catch up on all my own tracking notes, but if it comes down to one wolf or the other dying tonight, I'm going to snipe you Admetus.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 15:38:14

I don't want to come across as selfish, Ryvvn, and I know my position isn't the best. But if I die, Day 3 becomes an open book. There is no way it's anything but a sacrifice play gone wrong. Visigoth was a surprise to most, it's obvious any wolves will be on me.

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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 15:50:03

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. We are not mind readers. It might not be as obvious as you think. Remember the Wolfing game? Even though two wolves died in there in the Ozy-dferr ploy, wolves still won.

It just means no one is safe, that's all. But gotta wait on what other humans do. They are somehow still insecure.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 16:00:05

Looks like twdog will no longer be a maul option.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Clearasday » 27 Feb 2014, 16:08:47

Why aren't we mauling Zark? He Vigilante'd Ozy didn't he? Is there a guaranteed GA every night?

And listen Admetus, there is no way we aren't voting you and rekard today. It's way too suspicious to try to save either of you by starting another bandwagon. The fact that votes seem to magnetise to you doesn't help either.

But yes I see your logic for yesterday, and with that in mind I shall vote rekard. Probably. I suggest nobody vote for a human today, we're guaranteed to lose someone. I can't stick around late tonight either.
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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 16:18:02

I am just being wary of the GA on Zark. The GA in this game can protect a target two nights in a row, so it could fool the GA maybe.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Clearasday » 27 Feb 2014, 16:19:31

Right I've answered the Zark question myself now, but I'm double guessing myself as to betraying rekard. It's almost too much like me to do. Maybe Ryvvn should do it and I should just mindlessly vote Smirker like Classic Clear would.

Also nobody should miss the opportunity to claim GA if it gets dangerous. Because if it works it'll be hilarious, and if it doesn't you've got something to do at least. Just post frantically with hints that slowly build up to outright panic.
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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 16:30:44

That vigilante shot was a bit of a surprise. Clear, I think you would be the least suspicious at the moment from everyone on any vote given your absence. I do wonder what's the ideal thing to do. I think I can easily justify any vote on almost anyone I do. To be consistent I can do a move for Admetus, but we'll see.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Clearasday » 27 Feb 2014, 16:37:32

Mhm. Remember, if you think you'll have a better chance to victory than me, you can always try to kill me off with those two penalty votes I've got. I entirely support foolhardy schemes such as that.
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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 16:49:01

And listen Admetus, there is no way we aren't voting you and rekard today. It's way too suspicious to try to save either of you by starting another bandwagon. The fact that votes seem to magnetise to you doesn't help either.

I straight up said don't try to defend me, I've been saying that since yesterday when I created this problem for myself. That's different from preferring to kill me over any other player.

If I had my preference, I'd be dead yesterday. But since I'm not, I do think we're in a mess if I go down right now.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Clearasday » 27 Feb 2014, 16:54:03

I understand. I didn't mean it how it sounded, I'm tired. Anyway, I'm probably the last person that will get any credit from killing wolves, so I've left it for one of you to do. I seriously recommend you all vote for wolves today though. I'm not as I just can't react to things that will happen later with me leaving for the night now. Anyway, adios.
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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 16:58:21

Have a good one CAD. I do plan to see if I can get a reasonable wolf-vote in.


Subject: Day 4: Rain

7-zark-7 wrote:this does not mean that Admetus is not a wolf, but it's highly unlikely that Rekard ~and~ Admetus are both wolves.

This is a good reason to keep Zark around. I don't agree with him, but maybe it would be okay if I get offed and this is the prevailing opinion.


Man, if only I had a vig shot. I could shoot a human, get lynched, and then there'd be a LOT of a reason the wolves would not have wanted me dead.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Ryvvn » 27 Feb 2014, 16:58:50

Hey, sorry, suddenly not sure I'll be around for EoD, so had to just make my move now; at least it means I'm not throwing a kill snipe on you, Admetus.

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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 17:04:43

Admetus, I think you're getting affected a bit too much by the wolf factor. The factor where it seems everything you do can have terrible consequences. A human will be confused : Would several wolves really be in one bandwagon? Or not? The key is to nudge *not* lead the humans into a favorable conclusion so they think they thought of the idea.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 17:09:23

rekard wrote:Admetus, I think you're getting affected a bit too much by the wolf factor. The factor where it seems everything you do can have terrible consequences. A human will be confused : Would several wolves really be in one bandwagon? Or not? The key is to nudge *not* lead the humans into a favorable conclusion so they think they thought of the idea.

You're right, I need to keep cool and let things play out.

Based on my previous analysis, you were the only one I could move my vote to. But there are still votes pending, I'm sure I probably get one of those.

-edit-
Or even better would be Blindsniper getting killed by humans. That would be freakin' great. Go humans, vote BS!

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 17:13:15

Admetus - 3 - meta4, Nitestorm, Ryvvn
rekard - 3 - stigmata 2.0, That PJ, Admetus
meta4 - 3 - sphenodont, Smirker, Clearasday
DastardlyOldMan - 2 - rekard, Blindsniper83
BlindSniper83 - 2 - DastardlyOldMan, 7-Zark-7
Clearasday - 2 - Penalty X 2

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 17:19:17

Subject: Day 4: Rain

Iron Clad Burrito wrote:I'd be willing to bet that either DOM OR Smirker is a wolf, but not both.

Given this vote field, that's an odd move. If he's willing to believe DOM is a wolf, and DOM's at 2, what is he doing voting for no-vote Smirker?

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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 17:33:02

He probably is unsure of what to do. I can empathize. I have various times moved my vote to the one I believe to be a wolf instead of any of the leads, even if it's a singleton.

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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 17:36:22

Do we keep the maul ?

My move to vote Blind seems to help, but Rictus can be stubborn so he is likely to vote me. I may vote for you and if I die, my playful taunt tone can be interpreted as a wolfy provocation. That's the perk of my style. Anything can make sense as a human or wolf.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 17:40:49

I think given that post, you probably need to vote for me regardless of what Rictus does. But hopefully he plays along!

If Rictus does vote for you, I owe you a beer for being a devious manipulator.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 17:42:37

(Rictus votes Blindsniper)

Damn, well, I have no idea what tomorrow will bring, then.

I got my wish, I won't have been attached to a dying human!

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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 17:44:23

I will switch. But tying up Sniper worked beautifully I think. If I had switched to you immediately, I would have been tied with you again likely. Now I can tie you up and hope dice works in your favor.

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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 17:45:14

Or would I not switch? You still have not convinced me in the thread.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 17:49:18

I don't think I would rise to the bait. I'll make a short post.

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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 17:50:16

Damn. I am getting the wolf jivvies. Short term, Blind dying helps. But long term I do not know.I will be consistent. That's how I roll. Pray for the gods of dice.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Ryvvn » 27 Feb 2014, 17:52:40

Able to check back in, things are looking up it seems!

Who are we currently set to maul, simon right?

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 17:55:01

Yikes. I think you need to switch to me, rekard. ;)

My post got a little hostile because I couldn't just shrug it off like I thought.

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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 17:56:16

I already did. Had trouble with the tablet and had a slow connection for a moment.

Everyone good o. Simon?

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 17:58:35

I think so. Let me look at the vote positions today again.

Do you think killing ICB in the middle of his aggression against two humans would help us more?

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Re: Night 4

Postby Ryvvn » 27 Feb 2014, 17:58:39

rekard wrote:Everyone good on Simon?

Yeah, though I'd personally appreciate us not mauling Hellmata anytime soon, he's usually the one to publicly push me as human.

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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 17:59:19

I'm feeling we could maul sphenodont. But I don't know. Any of you change maul if yiu want. I am too slow in the tablet.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 17:59:35

Yeah, confirm Simple_Simon for maul.

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Re: Night 4

Postby rekard » 27 Feb 2014, 18:00:56

Now, pray to the dice Admetus!

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Re: Night 4

Postby Admetus » 27 Feb 2014, 18:02:09

It would be a nice birthday present if I live twice. (Well, technically tomorrow is the birthday.)

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Re: Night 4

Postby Ryvvn » 27 Feb 2014, 18:02:24

rekard wrote:Now, pray to the dice Admetus!

I had a post ready to snipe you, rekard, if anyone else had switched; was going to use HH and your's timing of posts as reason, and then push HH as wolf tomorrow once you were revealed. But I'm also fine with this outcome regardless of if Blind or Admetus (sorry) dies.

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Re: Night 4

Postby Ryvvn » 27 Feb 2014, 18:03:18

Admetus wrote:It would be a nice birthday present if I live twice. (Well, technically tomorrow is the birthday.)

Well happy early birthday then, in case we're unable to say it here later ;)


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