dferrantino wrote:And, reading through the entire exchange: Rictus, you misunderstood what Ozy meant by "That should be penalty enough."
He's not talking about penalizing Meta4, he's talking about the fact that Meta4's constant seering of DOM leaves him both extremely likely to be Seer and completely useless as the role. That's a penalty on the entire Human team. If it's indeed his intention to become Seer at all costs (which if I'm reading you right is what you mean by his "gaming the system") I'm perfectly fine with allowing it, as the penalty his team gets for his doing so offsets the huge bonus they get from exactly what DOM suggested in his post.
I can't allow Wolves to fuck around because of either the dynamics of Quantum itself, or just the fact that the quantum "metagame" hasn't matured to the point where the majority of players understand how to "solve" the game yet. Once that happens all of this can be revisited.
Mmm... in this regard, I'll refer to the discussions we've had about "trying your best to make your team win" that we've had whenever we see a conversion game (I'm trying my best to get converted and fucking over my current team - is not a viable strategy, etc.)
If Meta4 is trying his best to become the Seer, but fucking over the rest of the human team in doing so, then he's advocating a loss for his own team. Since this is Quantum, the line's a bit greyer, but if you were to Seer the same target every night in a vanilla game, you'd be fucking over your own team. We'd pretty much policy-WoG you for doing that (if there were a situation where seer results could change, conversion games, whatever, then go to your heart's content).
I absolutely hate PM games, and I should've went with my gut and ducked out when dfer announced that change (but as one of the few people that actually understands how quantum works, I always feel obligated to play). We advertise games that require little to no commitment, and PM games are not those games. A day thread with 27 posts isn't a thread, it's a tragedy. That said, I have no idea why you'd change that mid-game, but thanks for doing the day *after* I got killed, you bastard.
Also, it is HARD to become a wolf, especially when you don't have time to do grandiose PM-y stuffs. I was happy to get to 30% there.