Wolf stuff.

[Okaros]

rekard, did you wind up mauling MEM at any point? spheno's "revised" maul list doesn't include him and I may have... exaggerated... my mauling of him slightly.

[rekard]

I mauled pj, Ryvvn and dom

[Okaros]

MEM could work if we want to retain wolfishness then. Or do we want go human?

[Okaros]

Also, what is it with these requests to murder you, rekard? Furin just dropped me a PM suggesting that you're a wolf and asking/politely suggesting that maybe I could be willing to lynch you?

Going to reply with my generic "Eh, I could maybe support that but what's in it for me" response and see where it leads.

[sphenodont]

Just tell him that you know that rekard was the target of a mass seering and was forced to become way human...

[Okaros]

Just tell him that you know that rekard was the target of a mass seering and was forced to become way human...

Yeah, I'll use that if this looks like it's anything more than a probe to find out where my loyalties lie.

[rekard]

Shenanigans are plenty! Furin sent this earlier:

Greetings.

I am still trending towards Human and it is starting to look like I might even be the Seer. Unfortunately I must have been targeted with a maul last night because my chance of being dead has increased. It's still small, but I don't want to die without giving the following information to someone.

My targets and results:

Night 0: necklessone - Wolf (CONFIRMED)
Night 1: rekard - Human (unconfirmed)
Night 2: Hellheart - Human (unconfirmed)
Night 3: Nitestorm - Human (unconfirmed)
Night 4: DastardlyOldMan - Wolf (unconfirmed)

If I resolve as Seer then DastardlyOldMan needs to be lynched. Part of me wants to get him lynched today and roll the dice. The wise move would be to stay under the radar and let the other potential Seers try to game the system and fail.

My upcoming Seer targets:

Seer: Ryvvn --> Admetus --> sphenodont --> That PJ --> Meta4



Thoughts?

So it's a trap or bluff. I don't know. Just like, keep that secret.

[sphenodont]

Well, if he has truthfully seen DOM as wolf, that's at least three people who have, which means DOM's our likely alpha right now.

[Okaros]

If that's true (lots of wolf seers on DOM), then I don't think there's much we can do to un-do it right now. Is it worth trading rekard's alpha-eligibility for DOM?

Personal answer: I think it might be. Yes, it would diminish rekard's chances as a wolf, but if DOM's really that strong a wolf contender we have three reasons to get rid of him:

1) he's antagonistic to at least rekard and I, which means we're potential victims if he's really the alpha
2) if we want to wind up as wolves, we should probably take the chance now to eliminate our competition in the hopes that he'll beat the odds actually flip human
3) If we want to be wolf-hunters, lynching a wolf is a good way to chase that dream


Mind you, I'm a bit skewed perspective-wise since I'm the one they're going after right now.

[sphenodont]

Given that DOM hasn't pushed for me, including yesterday, he has probably mauled me. I'll claim to have seen both of you as human sometime before EOF, just in case I somehow end up being the true seer.

[Okaros]

Hm. If you're going to do that I'll hold off doing anything similar (it'd be more believable coming from you anyway I think). I'm not too worried about that vig shot anyway.

(One cute thing about lynch+vig combo is that if DOM actually succeeds in lynching me it makes him wolfier since it auto-invalidates his vig. I may mention that in the day thread when I post later, but that might draw attention to the fact that rekard did the same (albeit delayed) combination yesterday.)

[sphenodont]

Who do we pitch as an alternate? I can't really make a case for anyone other than DOM without it coming back to bite me in the ass.

I'd still like to take a wolf win, but that's obviously a very long shot.

[rekard]

Ryvvn maybe?

[Okaros]

Who do we pitch as an alternate? I can't really make a case for anyone other than DOM without it coming back to bite me in the ass.

Alternate to/for what?

Alternate to lynching DOM?

If we wanted to stay wolfy we could try for MEM, but that leaves the question of DOM's wolfiness unresolved.
If we wanted to go human, Ryvvn would likely be our best choice at the moment given the existing vote on him (though that would leave me as a possible alpha contender still). Aldax or PJ would invalidate all three of us in one move but would be harder to pull off today I think.

I'm currently planning to throw a defensive vote on DOM in an hour two, but I can easily change that near EOD to support whichever direction we want to go.

[sphenodont]

Vote and seer claim made. I'm all-in on DOM..... the misses and I might be going to a movie tonight, so I might not be back after a half hour from now.

I'll percolate on seer / maul targets.

[Okaros]

I'm around but delaying my vote. Since it looks like we're in on DOM, I don't want to prematurely encourage the building of a counter-wagon.

[sphenodont]

Nitestorm as my spokesperson, with Aldax as a backup.

Interesting choices, by the way. I suppose since they aren't currently associated with DOM, they would make more sense.

It seems like your suspicions were partially correct, considering Zark was a human. DOM is a wolf, probably the Alpha, and MEM's behavior is really damning. Unfortunately, my two lost seerings make me lag behind on information, I'll see what I can do about that... I don't mind an ally right now. How secure to talk to is Meta4?

Aldax, however, doesn't appear to trust DOM.