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Night 3. Wait what?

Postby rekard » 21 May 2014, 18:37:30

Ryvvn got mauled. Unfortunate.

But he can still live. Move on! Convince folks to revive him!

Ryvvn can talk in here, but he can't talk in the day board.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby rekard » 21 May 2014, 18:39:57

Also, you seer Simon. He is not the nutjob. You get only static from the report. Weird.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Ryvvn » 21 May 2014, 21:52:05

I think the only way you convince folks to revive me is to possibly play on the he hasn't had a good chance to participate since Quantum angle, but I doubt that will garner enough favor over the humans choosing Admetus or even Rave.

Obviously you'd have to attempt such persuasion through PM and not sure how well that'd color any of you, so maybe not worth risking it :|

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Ryvvn » 21 May 2014, 22:29:35

Oh, meta, any word on how I ended up mauled? Are wolves using a last vote override, or do you think there were protections in play on original maul target(s)?

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 05:39:17

Static, eh? Perhaps we're being bugged?

Bide a moment.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 05:42:39

Hellheart has confirmed that his faction also has a pet wolf.

We just need to figure out how many factions there are and whether something game-changing happens when/if all the wolves are eliminated and there are still factions extant.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 05:47:56

I'd like to call for a public truce on killing the wolves, but I want to get the okay of you guys first.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Meta4 » 22 May 2014, 05:49:53

Okaros followed me and switched to Furin > Zark > Ryvvn for the maul, then Stigmata did the same. No idea how that ended up going to you as you were the third conditional vote across the board. Were Furin and Zark both ineligible somehow?

Okaros opened today's maul bidding with Furin > Zark, I'll follow suit for now.
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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Meta4 » 22 May 2014, 05:53:58

It looks like there is some kind of vote manipulation going on with the wolves. Rekard noted that he thought we were expelling Furin, but then we all sent him a letter with Ryvvn's name at the last minute.

Okaros suspects the names of the wolves have been passed to all of the humans by a traitor. I definitely think there is another wolf traitor working for a fourth party, because it wasn't us. Can there potentially be more than one nutjob forming some kind of nutjob alliance?
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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Ryvvn » 22 May 2014, 08:01:08

sphenodont wrote:I'd like to call for a public truce on killing the wolves, but I want to get the okay of you guys first.

I misinterpreted your meaning here

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby rekard » 22 May 2014, 08:03:47

Master Sphenodont! Are you publicly acknowledging the existence of our secret faction?

Not good. Not good. If this tips off the conspiracy nutjob...

Oh my. Oh my.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 08:17:31

Well, The Society for the Preservation of Undesirable Direwolves (Contingent upon Agreed Neighboring Nations Officially Nuking-each-other) has been proposed.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 08:19:41

rekard wrote:Master Sphenodont! Are you publicly acknowledging the existence of our secret faction?

Not good. Not good. If this tips off the conspiracy nutjob...

Oh my. Oh my.


I suppose it depends how the nutjob is able to supposed to uncover the faction, and whether its our specific faction.

I'm just expecting that the Illustrious GM has some trick up his sleeve and wants to bait us into some sort of trap when the wolves are all gone. :P

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 08:33:52

Though, rekard has a point. I may have just committed a major fuck-up. Sorry guys.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby rekard » 22 May 2014, 08:39:26

Well I said the nutjob would uncover things by guesswork or just living.

So well, be careful Rogues. If the people of ???? realize that you're invading the Council, well being hidden might be dangerous. The nutjob alone can't be believed, but don't give credence to his but all theories. It could strengthen him.

Thread lightly Sergeant Newb Sphenodont. I will highly recommend to not reveal your team or teammates to anyone.

Let's attempt to bring Sergeant Rookie Ryvvn back.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Ryvvn » 22 May 2014, 08:43:48

rekard wrote:Let's attempt to bring Sergeant Rookie Ryvvn back.

A most salient plan!

Though I imagine this is where our dear rekard would really begin screwing with us, and I must admit I'd very much like to be the one to discover what those consequences of a revival might be....

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 09:28:00

Added some PM conversations I've had. I don't know if twdog and HH are on the same team, though, but I didn't offer twdog's name at all to HH. It's very coincidental that HH mentioned twdog in particular.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 10:55:06

Admetus wrote:I don't know the identity of the wolf-traitor. RaveBomb knows it, and he funneled the information about dferrantino and why I should be confident enough to shoot. In the vacation forum, RaveBomb has said he's still not giving up the name in public or semi-public, but he says he told a few confidants in private message. It will be difficult for this wolf-traitor to go back into full hiding. Eventually the humans will get a shot at him.

At the same time, I think there's little worry that the psychopath will wreck the wolf team. The humans are very far ahead right now. It's hard to imagine a scenario where the wolf-traitor achieves victory with 10 living humans and no living wolves. Any immediate wolf-traitor play to kill off more wolves would likely be seriously short-sighted.

As far as revival, I believe the humans don't need it right now, and rekard has threatened unforeseen consequences. The only worry I have is that the human-ish psychopaths group together with the wolf vote to revive Stigmata, wasting human time on a re-lynch.


Ryvvn, can you confirm this?

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 10:55:41

Also, if you're PMing people, please post correspondence in the thread I set up, so we can get a feel for what's going on.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 10:59:18

Added latest bits from Rave, Admetus, and twdog.

I'm trying to convince people to vote for Ryvvn on the basis of his analytic skills, but leaving the possibility of voting for Rave/Admetus. I'm claiming to lean away from Admetus since he already used his shot, so hopefully people go with Ryvvn.

Rictus appears to be on twdog's team.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Ryvvn » 22 May 2014, 11:43:26

I'll verify as soon as I can, at work and checking in intermittently, I'll also post my few PMs when able, though there's not much of substance between my and Okaros' tentative agreement.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 12:14:45

Hrm. Not as convinced that twdog and Rictus being on the same team, unless Rictus is just playing dumb.

Let's see how it goes.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Meta4 » 22 May 2014, 12:34:07

Mister E. Meat is trying to get a wolf revived. No idea how he plans to pull that off. He is also pushing for a maul of Zark > Furin instead of Furin > Zark (Okaros and I have voted for the latter) because he thinks Furin will eventually attract some attention on his own.
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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 12:40:10

I agree that bringing back the dead is probably another place rekard is going to try to screw with us (especially if he's set up a green room for them to hang out and chill while we decide who gets the curtain call). That said, I'm indulging in some more theorycrafting.

Perhaps not all of the wolves have split allegiances? That would probably make a good deal of sense. Maybe three or four of them are on a four player team, which would leave a number of other players to be non-aligned humans. (Or even humans aligned with other humans not aligned with wolf spies.)

rekard, can you tell us whether the nutjob is "human", or could he also be a wolf?

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby rekard » 22 May 2014, 12:41:26

You only know there is a nutjob. Nothing else.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Ryvvn » 22 May 2014, 12:41:54

Oh, ok, not much to verify; the vacation thread didn't get populated with us current 4 until after EoD last night, so anything said between Admetus and Rave prior to that happened through PM, and nothing of note was said in the vacation thread other than Admetus repeating that Rave was the funnel for the mole's info and Rave implying that other living players have the same info should they want to act on it.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 12:56:11

Yeah, I just went back and read the Day 2 thread, and it's spelled out there.

Which does make sense. A vig would have to be independent, unless the hidden factions have different goals/win conditions. Another independent human might be responsible for that maul override power (unless it's a non-mole wolves who pulled that off).

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 13:36:25

Meta4 wrote:Mister E. Meat is trying to get a wolf revived. No idea how he plans to pull that off. He is also pushing for a maul of Zark > Furin instead of Furin > Zark (Okaros and I have voted for the latter) because he thinks Furin will eventually attract some attention on his own.


What's his reasoning for Zark? I would think Furin's being more of a thorn in his side, unless he suspects Zark might have a special.

Are the wolves playing into the PM game at all?

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 15:10:28

Rictus and HH appear to be teammates. They seered me the first night.

meta4, can you PM HH and ask for their other seer target?

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby rekard » 22 May 2014, 15:36:41

You all feel uncomfortable. An evil presence as if something or someone got really angry.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Ryvvn » 22 May 2014, 15:59:51

rekard wrote:You all feel uncomfortable. An evil presence as if something or someone got really angry.

Well that's probably not good...



...or it means I'm being revived and coming back stronger than anyone could imagine, mwahahahahahhahaHAHAHAHAHAGAGHAHAH please let me play more

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby rekard » 22 May 2014, 16:48:39

Seer Target?

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 16:53:01

How does That PJ > Aldax sound, guys? Just going off a lack of voting for wolves, and general vibe.

(Not officially bolded at this time...)

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 17:00:26

Just added That PJ's response to my PM. Not a lot of fun via mobile...

He's understandably angry, but does come across as any less nutjob to me. I'm going to vote for Aldax, I think, but either being lynched is fine by me.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Ryvvn » 22 May 2014, 17:19:41

sphenodont wrote:Just added That PJ's response to my PM. Not a lot of fun via mobile...

He's understandably angry, but does come across as any less nutjob to me.

Yeah, and his response, though private, does seem typical PJ as we've come to see from him.

If I were seer voting (does my vote still count for that?) I would be interested in peeking at him, but I'd personally glance at Okaros first; however since I may be gone for good this evening, the choice should lie with the rest of you.

If my vote does count, I'll at least log an initial one for the team: Seer That PJ -> Okaros

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Ryvvn » 22 May 2014, 17:34:50

Spheno, is there anyone you've already contacted today that you'd think I should PM in these final moments to request they revive me or should I just stay silent and hope for the best?

Also, the way Admetus is trying to piece things together in the vacation thread sounds like he's definitely not affiliated with any other players.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Meta4 » 22 May 2014, 17:35:52

sphenodont wrote:Rictus and HH appear to be teammates. They seered me the first night.

meta4, can you PM HH and ask for their other seer target?



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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Meta4 » 22 May 2014, 17:36:35

rekard wrote:You all feel uncomfortable. An evil presence as if something or someone got really angry.



The woffles received this exact same message in their forum. Since he mentioned a "presence", is it possible some third party has received access to our forum?
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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Meta4 » 22 May 2014, 17:38:05

I'd also like to use our seer powers on That PJ > Okaros because Ryvvn has obviously thought about this more than I have.
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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby PA System » 22 May 2014, 17:41:42

Agree on seer that pj at least. PMed w/ him a bunch. Think he is hoping I'll have noob tells.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 17:53:50

Ryvvn, good call on Okaros. I think he's the most likely psycho wolf candidate, and I didn't want to forget him.

Seer That PJ > Okaros.

I've posted all my PMs, I think. Feel free to reach out to anyone you like. I think you could sell them on the fact that you got mauled means the wolves think you're a danger to them.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 17:54:17

Antipater, anything interesting come out of any of your PM conversations? Feel free to copy/paste them over here for all of us...

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby PA System » 22 May 2014, 17:58:02

I don't think any if it was at all telling but let me peruse/try to copy and paste on this damn thing

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Meta4 » 22 May 2014, 17:59:01

Response from Hellheart:

Today? Zark -> Furin.

I'm hoping that Zark hasn't already been Seered.
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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 18:01:33

Maybe my clue wasn't clear enough. I told him I'd post our two seer targets in my next post, and I mentioned simon and Zark.

I even said "Zark, you're no loon".

Ah well.

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Ryvvn » 22 May 2014, 18:01:45

sphenodont wrote:I've posted all my PMs, I think. Feel free to reach out to anyone you like. I think you could sell them on the fact that you got mauled means the wolves think you're a danger to them.

I was thinking Hellheart given your conversation with him, but as I'm still stuck on mobile and EoD just passed, I'll just keep my fingers crossed that other humans thought me the best choice (though Admetus is correct that no revival is probably better, but I'm always about self-preservation... even if it means secret zombie faction!)

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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Meta4 » 22 May 2014, 18:02:12

I convinced the wolves to vote for a revival on Stigmata. They were hashing the idea of going for a "no revive" vote because they are concerned a human might win otherwise.

I promised to eat a sock if I was wrong, but with the stipulation it be made of candy.
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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby Meta4 » 22 May 2014, 18:03:02

sphenodont wrote:I even said "Zark, you're no loon".


Is that some kind of secret Canadian message?
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Re: Night 3. Wait what?

Postby sphenodont » 22 May 2014, 18:03:40

Well, if you aren't resurrected, Ryvvn, it's been an honor. See you on the other side.

After we win the game and find a way to bring you back after all, that is. :)


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