Round 9: The Giant Robot

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby stigmata » 30 Apr 2014, 16:56:58

Hellheart wrote:Stigmata


Imma give you such a pinch.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Hellheart » 30 Apr 2014, 16:58:54

...Hey, didn't you have the exact same reaction to a sudden vote on you when you were a wolf in Miller's Hollow?

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Hellheart wrote:(( Preemptive retaliatory lynch vote for Stigmata ))


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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby stigmata » 30 Apr 2014, 17:03:45

I think you'll find that I have always been a prissy little bitch.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Hellheart » 30 Apr 2014, 17:06:04

And all of the Stigmata conversation screeched to a halt at the start of this day, didn't it? Zark was really the only player that seemed to still be interested in following up on you. I don't like that.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby stigmata » 30 Apr 2014, 17:09:37

I don't think anyone's demonstrated that I have a case to answer. People seem to understand that you need to act on those suspicions that have an actual foundation, especially when you only have a couple of days to go before annihilation.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Smirker » 30 Apr 2014, 17:25:49

stigmata wrote:I don't think anyone's demonstrated that I have a case to answer. People seem to understand that you need to act on those suspicions that have an actual foundation, especially when you only have a couple of days to go before annihilation.

Oh, I still suspect the hell out of you. But, my sense of caution is telling me to see to the others who I think are suspicious.

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I'm gagne to switch onto stigmata. But I don't to do so unless we can be more certain of at least a tie with San-I-am. I'm sTill working off my phone, but will boot up PC soon

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Hellheart » 30 Apr 2014, 17:27:11

TLDR: I still think lynching Visigoth is a good idea, but given the railroad I think lynching San is a TERRIBLE idea. You're the easiest to lynch out of the 3 players that made ideal 2nd candidates, ALL of whom I think have a reasonable chance of being wolves via process of elimination.

If I had a choice between any of the 3, I'd pick Furin. But I don't think I could get enough votes on Furin this late in the day.

stigmata wrote:I don't think anyone's demonstrated that I have a case to answer. People seem to understand that you need to act on those suspicions that have an actual foundation, especially when you only have a couple of days to go before annihilation.

Okay, so there are 12 players. 4 of them are wolves. I'm not a wolf, and Smirker isn't a wolf because he shot Ozymandias yesterday and a reloading Vig with human cred is the default GA target.

From that point on, I've rejected a lot of my previous assumptions and I'm now trying to go off of feel and drawing fine lines, using reasoning I haven't really shared with anyone.

10 players, 4 of them are wolves. Rictus isn't a wolf both because of his response and reasons I don't want to go into more detail about unless we end up lynching a human.

9 players, 4 of them are wolves. San's been railroaded on a day when the wolves absolutely cannot lose a player.

8 players, 4 of them are wolves. Antipater probably isn't a convert because converting the newbie is obvious so we'd reasonably lynch him around this time. If I'm right about that, his chances of being a wolf take a nosedive.

7 players, 4 of them are wolves. This is really bad, and could be incredibly bad with huge implications going back through the voting record. I now am looking at who's voting for San, because wolves have to be involved in that railroad. Knock out ICB and sphenodont for now. Keeping Zark in because he's on a singleton, just in case.

5 players, ?4? of them are wolves. Out of: Furin, Ravebomb, Visigoth, Stigmata, and Zark, my most human of the group is Zark. Anyone else in that list is a good target. San isn't on that list, so I want a 2nd that is on that list. You're the easiest of the remaining 3 to get a late lynch on.

As mentioned in the TLDR, I'd rather go for Furin and Visigoth. I don't think all 4 of the players in that list are wolves, but I think at least 2 are, and those are the two most suspicious. But I'd need 4 more votes on Furin, and I don't think enough people are around for that.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Smirker » 30 Apr 2014, 17:34:03

Current tally?

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Hellheart » 30 Apr 2014, 17:34:34

Smirker could easily have been converted yesterday if the GA has previously been converted. That would be horrible, awful, terrible luck and I'm hoping that's not the case.

The odds of that are low enough that there's no reason to consider that possibility with 12 players left in the game.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Rictus » 30 Apr 2014, 17:37:28

Hellheart, I would switch to Furin. I have been finding that he and I agree on a lot this game and that has historically given me a blind spot for a wolf to hide in.



Edit: in case I don't get back. FurinMirado.
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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Hellheart » 30 Apr 2014, 17:41:03

San : 5 : FurinMirado, RaveBomb, Visigoth, Smirker, Stigmata
Visigoth : 3 : Antipater, sphenodont, Iron Clad Burrito
RaveBomb : 2 : San, Rictus
Stigmata : 2 : 7-zark-7, Hellheart

If you vote for Stigmata, Smirker, it's 4-3-3.

I'm okay with lynching Visigoth over San as well. I'd like your input on that.

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Well then, we could technically slam Furin through right now if Stigmata would vote Furin.

I'm thinking that our default lynch choices have been tainted. The only Networkers we nab are vig shots out of the blue, and all the lynch leaders end up being human.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Hellheart » 30 Apr 2014, 17:43:51

In the interest of doing something preferable that might actually work, and as a gesture to Stigmata, FurinMirado.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Hellheart » 30 Apr 2014, 17:45:21

San : 5 : FurinMirado, RaveBomb, Visigoth, Smirker, Stigmata
Visigoth : 3 : Antipater, sphenodont, Iron Clad Burrito
FurinMirado : 2 : Rictus, Hellheart
RaveBomb : 1 : San
Stigmata : 1 : 7-Zark-7

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Hellheart » 30 Apr 2014, 17:47:02

Smirker, if Stigmata doesn't switch I'm going to switch to Visigoth. So if you're not okay with Furin, switching to Visigoth is probably going to be the way to go.

Unless you don't think I'm onto something with San.
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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Smirker » 30 Apr 2014, 17:48:06

Hmm, i'm getting such vibes off of FurinMirado, Stigmata and San.. But San always hits me that way (well, almost always).

So, I'm going to support this FurinMirado. But, mostly because the anti-San arguments were middling and I find it more likely that Ozy who identified the GA schedule would've tried to convert Furin after identifying the schedule.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Rictus » 30 Apr 2014, 17:48:40

I don't have a strong read on visigith, but looking at the people who are voting for San I will be switching to Visigoth to save San, if we can't get FM
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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Smirker » 30 Apr 2014, 17:49:32

Visi I'm torn on as well; but not as much as the other three. they are my top rank for suspicion atm.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Hellheart » 30 Apr 2014, 17:51:00

Smirker wrote:Visi I'm torn on as well; but not as much as the other three. they are my top rank for suspicion atm.

I have to agree, except about San. But even if Rictus votes for Stigmata, he'd coinflip with San. And I guess that's okay, but Rictus isn't going to vote for Stigmata. So it's a moot point.

I'd feel a lot happier if Zark came back. He's one of the players I actually still trust.

The wolves would never ever let San get railroaded on the day before must-lynch if he's a wolf. It's inconceivable. There's no way they're leaving it up to me this late in the day to save him.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Visigoth » 30 Apr 2014, 17:52:16

If I happen to die today I'd likely take a look at some of the people who voted on me. Especially after revealing that I can't be converted which the Network would surely like out of the way. And if they can do it via lynch so much the better.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Hellheart » 30 Apr 2014, 17:53:05

Visigoth wrote:If I happen to die today I'd likely take a look at some of the people who voted on me. Especially after revealing that I can't be converted which the Network would surely like out of the way. And if they can do it via lynch so much the better.

Visi! Will you vote for Furin?

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby FurinMirado » 30 Apr 2014, 17:53:08

I log on in the last 10 minutes just to check and, sure enough, sudden bandwagon on me again. Do we not see how converting me would be a stupid idea? Bandwagons form out of mid-air when someone sneezes and it sounds like my name!

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby FurinMirado » 30 Apr 2014, 17:53:34

Fuck this.

Role claim.

You're about to kill the GA you stupid motherfuckers.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Hellheart » 30 Apr 2014, 17:54:44

FurinMirado wrote:Fuck this.

Role claim.

You're about to kill the GA you stupid motherfuckers.

I imagine this isn't news to the Network given your speculation, but it's news to me. You'll protect yourself tomorrow anyway, I imagine, and then they'd have mauled you anyway. This reveal doesn't hurt you.

Who do you think we should lynch?

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Rictus » 30 Apr 2014, 17:56:59

Visigoth. .
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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby FurinMirado » 30 Apr 2014, 17:57:00

Hellheart wrote:
FurinMirado wrote:Fuck this.

Role claim.

You're about to kill the GA you stupid motherfuckers.

I imagine this isn't news to the Network given your speculation, but it's news to me.

Who do you think we should lynch?


I don't think lynching Visi is the way to go. I don't want to risk taking out someone that has been immune this whole time. Not to mention the fact that he sounds legit in his posting.

San is where I stay because he's so damned random it's easy to hide as a Wolf. Same reason I would possibly go after Ravebomb. They're smart and can lie low for a really long time.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Hellheart » 30 Apr 2014, 17:57:00

Hellheart wrote:San : 4 : FurinMirado, RaveBomb, Visigoth, Stigmata
Visigoth : 3 : Antipater, sphenodont, Iron Clad Burrito
FurinMirado : 3 : Rictus, Hellheart, Smirker
RaveBomb : 1 : San
Stigmata : 1 : 7-Zark-7

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby FurinMirado » 30 Apr 2014, 17:57:59

I guess I shouldn't say "random". They just seem random because they keep to themselves and they've done it for so long that no one really expects analysis or reasoning out of them.
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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Visigoth » 30 Apr 2014, 17:58:06

Actually, FurinMirado could be converted since the rules state that the GA cannot protect the same target for the next two nights. That to me reads as if the GA couldn't protect himself each conversion night since there would only be one night in between protecting himself.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Rictus » 30 Apr 2014, 17:58:42

I'm out of time and reading to my kids.
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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Hellheart » 30 Apr 2014, 17:58:42

We could just all land on Smirker like I originally planned :lol:

I'll vote for San against my better judgement. I hope I'm wrong about this railroad.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby FurinMirado » 30 Apr 2014, 17:59:24

Visigoth wrote:Actually, FurinMirado could be converted since the rules state that the GA cannot protect the same target for the next two nights. That to me reads as if the GA couldn't protect himself each conversion night since there would only be one night in between protecting himself.

Correct. I protected myself every other conversion night. I'd rather not say my pattern right now, because then they'll know when to maul me.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby sphenodont » 30 Apr 2014, 17:59:25

Gog can vote for San again.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

Postby Hellheart » 30 Apr 2014, 17:59:36

Wait, Furin would be the NIght 8 convert then. Furin

Well, spheno made it irrelevant :lol: . Again, I hope you're right about San.

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Re: Round 9: The Giant Robot

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And that's the day.


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